but yeah post socialist marxism is anti-state

Ends dont justify the means

The people will destroy it

Communism is Left Libertarianism

^

It's not contradictory

i would actually say authoritarian communism is an oxymoron

tbh

If it's authoritarian it's just socialist.

Marxist Socialist.

especially since like, ML and MLM is pretty much just a distortion of marxism built of a laughably incorrect analysis

i mean

marx never made the distinction between socialism and communism. that was Lenin

There's anarchist who believe in getting rid of the state first and then capitalism

and that post state society is is true communism?

but yes, true communism is a stateless, classless, moneyless society

^^^

i dont understand how you destroy capitalism. Isnt there a marxist definition

@Krusk True

Destroying the state and markets

Capitalism cant exist without either of them

while that is true it is also important to note that markets are not inherent to capitalism

they have existed long before and will exist long after

^^^

There's such thing as "Market Socialism"

yeah

most contemporary market socialists are neo-proudhonians though

which is big dumb

BE KOSHER

What

Lemme speak

Market socialism is haram

bruh stop deleting peoples messages

```Market socialism is a type of economic system involving the public, cooperative or social ownership of the means of production in the framework of a market economy.```

Don’t even mention those particular political people for now.

tbh guild socialism > market socialism

@Krusk

We’re on a thin line and need to be careful for the next 48 hours or so.

Fuck you @DrRisen

@DrRisen why are you doing this

nothing we've said has broken the TOS