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Ottoman empire will rise again
Erdoğan
Get those Kurds
😁
Thanks
@Deleted User cool but
Not enough nationalism and traditionalism
Must be ultratraditionalism and ultranationalism
only reason theyre are low is because of imperialism and emphasis on stem and technocracy i think
newspaper | Hungary: Orban Will 'Use Force' If Turkey 'Opens the Gates' of Europe to Migrants
http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/breitbart/~3/arY_K4wmqvk/
BASED HUNGARY
Based Turkey
Don't cave to EU pussies
Down with the EU
The EU is the only hope for a pan european identity though
no
Pan-Europeanism is retarded
Anti Nationalism
Nationalism is gay
EU is gay but also not gay
There’s a big difference between nationalistic and globalistic societies, this isn’t a thing to form a quick, uneducated opinion on.
To act as if one society is better than another based on arbitrary things such as language, culture, and blurry ethnic groupings is faulty at best.
The idea of a nation state is faulty as well often being nothing more than an arbitrary divider especially with larger nation states even in Europe
@AlexTheLad217 No, ur confusing "arbitrary" with "axioms"
You're assuming that axioms are arbitrary, when they are not
Its a basic axiom to acknowledge that we can deduce superiority of one language over the other if we agree that the trait which should be preferable in both languages, is ability to convey thoughts coherently and structurally for instance
But if you were to say that everything is arbitrary, ok? Why are you cherry picking which things to disregard if EVERYTHINg is arbitrary
Even anarchy is arbitrary since it insinuates disorder trumping order which is an axiom, and axiom under ur logic is arbitrary
Nice try jew
Also nation states arent dividers wtf, true nationalism at its hearth are UNIFIERS of their kind
The fact that one nation is isolationist and the other wants to invade it has nothing to do with nationalism, but rather the fact that that STATE wants to do that which is inherently anti nationalist (since by definition nationalism implies ethnic nationalism and isolationism)
also @everyone does anyone know Exiled's new discord account? he got banned again pls send me if you know it, or if u know a friend who has his new acc
How about requiring phone # to join?
I’m not confusing axiom with arbitrary I really do mean the word I use. With the language example there’s no characteristic of language that is better inherently better so my point is that nationalists that use it as a talking point are using arbitrary claims to superiority.
I really don’t understand what you’re getting at here. I gave some examples of things people use to define national groups when they’re poor descriptions when people can be culturally one group and speak the language of another and vice versa pointed out how ethnic groups are blurry. These aren’t the only things that define national identities but they’re the biggest so I pointed them out as bad descriptors among others. Your bit about anarchy has no connection to the conversation so whatever.
Nationalism is primarily used to say we are one people and not them, literally a divider. Saying your group is different than everyone else’s. Especially when dealing with previously mention blurry areas that don’t perfectly fall into one category as well as empowering/motivating some groups to attempt to assimilate others that don’t perfectly fit into a group.
Doesn’t have anything to do with what I was saying so whatever. Still ignores that hyper-nationalistic states often attempt to expand their borders to acquire resources.
“Nice try jew”
Okay