Message from @Veraien

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2019-10-23 13:09:47 UTC  

So yeah, arguably the british are still responsible

2019-10-23 13:09:55 UTC  

there is no casual relationship between israel and israeli intelligence along with the CIA artifically starting conflicts in the middle east to destabilize and weaken the surrounding areas?

2019-10-23 13:10:04 UTC  

which was created at the behest of Britian?

2019-10-23 13:10:05 UTC  

none

2019-10-23 13:10:07 UTC  

at all

2019-10-23 13:10:10 UTC  

really?

2019-10-23 13:10:13 UTC  

yes

2019-10-23 13:10:32 UTC  

<:absoluteretardation:591182455885660178>

2019-10-23 13:10:40 UTC  

oh my god

2019-10-23 13:11:14 UTC  

this is your brain on fish and chips

2019-10-23 13:11:27 UTC  

you have established correlation, not causation
you believe in historical determinism, which is wrong, so you think the relationship is causal

2019-10-23 13:11:51 UTC  

do you not believe in cause and effect

2019-10-23 13:11:59 UTC  

do eventsin history just happen

2019-10-23 13:12:10 UTC  

i dont believe in historical determinism no

2019-10-23 13:12:10 UTC  

with no underlying factors or basis behind them

2019-10-23 13:12:14 UTC  

no underlying cause

2019-10-23 13:12:21 UTC  

things just happen

2019-10-23 13:12:31 UTC  

this is a strawman argument

2019-10-23 13:12:36 UTC  

could mossad exist if israel did not

2019-10-23 13:12:38 UTC  

i didnt say that

2019-10-23 13:12:38 UTC  

yes

2019-10-23 13:12:39 UTC  

or no

2019-10-23 13:13:17 UTC  

right
lemme try and break it down
does israel exist? @Veraien

2019-10-23 13:13:43 UTC  

It shouldnt but it does

2019-10-23 13:14:02 UTC  

israel exists due to the balfor declaration drawn up by British officals

2019-10-23 13:14:16 UTC  

like me and Asdrubal have stated

2019-10-23 13:14:35 UTC  

right, does israel do things that cause the refugee crisis?

2019-10-23 13:14:59 UTC  

without that betrayal of their former colonial holdings, there would be no reason to create conflict in that area

2019-10-23 13:15:11 UTC  

yes they do all the time

2019-10-23 13:15:18 UTC  

as well as the CIA in america

2019-10-23 13:15:33 UTC  

intelligence agencys conduct operations daily in the ME and NA

2019-10-23 13:16:03 UTC  

in what way did the balfour declaration cause these bad things to happen?

2019-10-23 13:17:31 UTC  

Israel exists (after its formation that was supported by the british) because of the British dividing the arabs states, instead of forming one United Arab nation, hence making them weaker in conflicts where Israel was supposed to be destroyed

2019-10-23 13:18:20 UTC  

in what way does the mere existence of israel cause the refugee crisis?

2019-10-23 13:19:45 UTC  

Mossad cant exist without Israel

2019-10-23 13:20:25 UTC  

operations conducted by the CIA/Mossad have created wars in the ME and North Africa

2019-10-23 13:20:47 UTC  

The Israeli lobby in Congress is why the CIA is even there in the first place

2019-10-23 13:20:58 UTC  

I dont need to remind you who created Israel

2019-10-23 13:21:30 UTC  

ok
thats a correlation and historical determinism but also there is no way in which there is a causal relation between those things

2019-10-23 13:21:38 UTC  

Libya was a bulwark against african imigration into europe, Iraq and afganistan because they did not want to bow to american dominance as well has funding islamic groups against israel

2019-10-23 13:21:57 UTC  

and now Iran and syria because they do not like Israel and wish for its destruction