the causes for wars can span decades

not just in the build up period

your blatantly refusing to acknowledge your country's failings and errors

what you have established is a correlation between israel existing and israel conducting a certain amount of operations
there is no sound way that you can argue that britain is responsible for these operations

because the situation in the middle east would never have happened if the british did not support the forming of israel and honoured their pacts with their colonial holdings in the middle east

historical determinism[2]

britian is not responsible for israeli intelligence directly

but indirectly

this is faulty logic

israeli intelligence cannot exist without israel which was formed by the british

Arguably the british are responsible

how can you not see this

They started the importation of slaves in America

with the help of jewish slave traders as well

no, i can see that israel exists in part because of british policy
there is no causal relation between the establishment of israel and these particular operations

British actions in africa and india led to them migrating to America

So yeah, arguably the british are still responsible

there is no casual relationship between israel and israeli intelligence along with the CIA artifically starting conflicts in the middle east to destabilize and weaken the surrounding areas?

which was created at the behest of Britian?

none

at all

really?

yes

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oh my god

this is your brain on fish and chips

you have established correlation, not causation
you believe in historical determinism, which is wrong, so you think the relationship is causal

do you not believe in cause and effect

do eventsin history just happen

i dont believe in historical determinism no

with no underlying factors or basis behind them

no underlying cause

things just happen

this is a strawman argument

could mossad exist if israel did not

i didnt say that

yes

or no

right
lemme try and break it down
does israel exist? @Veraien

It shouldnt but it does

israel exists due to the balfor declaration drawn up by British officals