Message from @sunman

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2019-11-26 05:35:09 UTC  

No

2019-11-26 05:35:12 UTC  

it is why eastern europe is in tatters

2019-11-26 05:35:15 UTC  

and why the ussr failed

2019-11-26 05:35:18 UTC  

Look at Stalin's 5 year plan

2019-11-26 05:35:29 UTC  

it did what the west had already achieved

2019-11-26 05:35:32 UTC  

@sunman USSR failed Because of reforms

2019-11-26 05:35:36 UTC  

Are you delusional

2019-11-26 05:35:46 UTC  

Gorbachev's reforms ended the USSR

2019-11-26 05:35:49 UTC  

Not it's economics

2019-11-26 05:35:50 UTC  

reform allowed for sentiment which had been boiling for decades to voice

2019-11-26 05:36:04 UTC  

That's wrong again

2019-11-26 05:36:12 UTC  

the soviet economy in the late 80s was failing

2019-11-26 05:36:14 UTC  

The USSR was entering decline in the 1970s, gorbachev just made it worse

2019-11-26 05:36:17 UTC  

My parents and back all lived in the USSR @sunman

2019-11-26 05:36:21 UTC  

I can vouch against it

2019-11-26 05:36:25 UTC  

Lol

2019-11-26 05:36:29 UTC  

Poorfags

2019-11-26 05:36:37 UTC  

They were well off

2019-11-26 05:36:43 UTC  

so they were kulaks

2019-11-26 05:36:47 UTC  

>were

2019-11-26 05:37:00 UTC  

my family lived in ukraine

2019-11-26 05:37:03 UTC  

and emigrated post war

2019-11-26 05:37:08 UTC  

Kulaks deserved it tbh

2019-11-26 05:37:10 UTC  

they lost their land to collectivisation

2019-11-26 05:37:19 UTC  

and had to work on communal farming

2019-11-26 05:37:24 UTC  

@sunman Almost everything in history books regarding the USSR is propaganda

2019-11-26 05:37:32 UTC  

one of them was even arrested and sent to a gulag for attending political meetings

2019-11-26 05:37:38 UTC  

Good lmao

2019-11-26 05:37:47 UTC  

i can respect russia in some regards

2019-11-26 05:37:54 UTC  

but its communist past did not help them

2019-11-26 05:37:56 UTC  

Authoritarianism must be enforced

2019-11-26 05:38:02 UTC  

as much as the red nationalism makes it look desirable

2019-11-26 05:38:37 UTC  

@sunman The US's economy during and even post-war was pretty command economy

2019-11-26 05:38:55 UTC  

the difference is they always had a degree of free market competition

2019-11-26 05:38:58 UTC  

the USSR had none at all

2019-11-26 05:39:04 UTC  

therefore it failed to grow as competitively

2019-11-26 05:39:08 UTC  

That wasn't the deciding factor

2019-11-26 05:39:14 UTC  

the right model of the bolsheviks was more favourable

2019-11-26 05:39:16 UTC  

Keynesianism doesnt work

2019-11-26 05:39:26 UTC  

the NEP could have allowed the USSR what it needed

2019-11-26 05:39:29 UTC  

That's already been proved