sunman

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2019-06-29 02:25:48 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

ye

2019-07-08 07:11:03 UTC [Rhetoric โ„ข #general]  

gday

2019-11-19 00:07:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

heavily regulated

2019-11-19 00:07:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #qotd]  

because laissez-faire allowed globalisation to pervert the west to what it is today

2019-11-25 13:04:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

^

2019-11-25 13:04:49 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

this

2019-11-25 22:34:21 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

@Asdrubal implying the Afrikaans would have lost

2019-11-26 05:07:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

"Not gonna happen. Military can bomb it's own citizens without any citizens knowing, literally hundreds of citizens go missing every year (mainly Chinese and Russian spies) and no one notices or cares
And the military can afford to use tanks domestically"

I agree with this

2019-11-26 05:08:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but Tanks are awfully suited for urban warfare

2019-11-26 05:08:08 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

as well as Guerilla warfare

2019-11-26 05:08:25 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

in the case of a massive breakdown of society aka civil war, where infrastructure has also collapsed

2019-11-26 05:08:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

we're probably looking at infantry based warfare and skirmishes

2019-11-26 05:09:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

ye

2019-11-26 05:09:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

in any case I think a popular revolt will win

2019-11-26 05:09:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

even in the modern day

2019-11-26 05:10:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

if i lived in Russia or China i would be more doubtful

2019-11-26 05:10:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but in the West i think the care for human rights and humanism in general is too strong

2019-11-26 05:15:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

thoughts on nationalism

2019-11-26 05:15:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  
2019-11-26 05:15:16 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i see u have the communist tag

2019-11-26 05:25:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

well the USSR did have all that red nationalism stuff going on

2019-11-26 05:25:13 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but i understand that was a tool

2019-11-26 05:25:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and the end goal of communism is to abolish capitalism entirely

2019-11-26 05:25:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

what do you think about Nazbol?

2019-11-26 05:26:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

so that is just socialism + nationalism

2019-11-26 05:26:18 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

correct?

2019-11-26 05:26:42 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

well i agree with the first 2

2019-11-26 05:26:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but i wouldn't call myself nazbol

2019-11-26 05:27:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i prefer market interventionist or mixed economist

2019-11-26 05:28:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

state capitalism yes

2019-11-26 05:29:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but i also agree with distributism, in the breakdown of monopolies

2019-11-26 05:29:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

well i have been told 2 different things by different people

2019-11-26 05:30:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and only recently i found out it was the economic plan behind pol pot

2019-11-26 05:30:41 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but i was told by someone else that it was the idea that big business should be broken up always

2019-11-26 05:30:45 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and small business favoured

2019-11-26 05:33:46 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

do all communists prefer agrarianism

2019-11-26 05:33:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

because i think ultimately that is the only end goal

2019-11-26 05:34:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

of communism

2019-11-26 05:34:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

communism actually breaks economic growth

2019-11-26 05:34:34 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

communism restricts competition and free enterprise

2019-11-26 05:34:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

well it is less effective

2019-11-26 05:35:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

than capitalism when allowing for growth

2019-11-26 05:35:05 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

yes it is

2019-11-26 05:35:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

it is why eastern europe is in tatters

2019-11-26 05:35:15 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and why the ussr failed

2019-11-26 05:35:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

it did what the west had already achieved

2019-11-26 05:35:50 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

reform allowed for sentiment which had been boiling for decades to voice

2019-11-26 05:36:12 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the soviet economy in the late 80s was failing

2019-11-26 05:36:43 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

so they were kulaks

2019-11-26 05:37:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

my family lived in ukraine

2019-11-26 05:37:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and emigrated post war

2019-11-26 05:37:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

they lost their land to collectivisation

2019-11-26 05:37:19 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and had to work on communal farming

2019-11-26 05:37:32 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

one of them was even arrested and sent to a gulag for attending political meetings

2019-11-26 05:37:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i can respect russia in some regards

2019-11-26 05:37:54 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but its communist past did not help them

2019-11-26 05:38:02 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

as much as the red nationalism makes it look desirable

2019-11-26 05:38:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the difference is they always had a degree of free market competition

2019-11-26 05:38:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the USSR had none at all

2019-11-26 05:39:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

therefore it failed to grow as competitively

2019-11-26 05:39:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the right model of the bolsheviks was more favourable

2019-11-26 05:39:26 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the NEP could have allowed the USSR what it needed

2019-11-26 05:39:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but they went straight for collectivisation

2019-11-26 05:39:47 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

I don't think it is

2019-11-26 05:40:01 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but i dont agree with economic stagnation either

2019-11-26 05:40:24 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

that is due to immigration policy

2019-11-26 05:40:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i agree

2019-11-26 05:40:56 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

immigration policy brought them here

2019-11-26 05:41:14 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i'd agree again

2019-11-26 05:41:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

among others, yes

2019-11-26 05:41:55 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

like I said im a market interventionist and mixed economist, i'm an economic centrist...

I just dont agree with planned economies

2019-11-26 05:42:09 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i dont think full blown communism is the answer

2019-11-26 05:42:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

the market does need regulation, but the free market shouldn't be destroyed entirely

2019-11-26 05:42:59 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

explain to me distributism according to oyu

2019-11-26 05:43:04 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

as well as what a command economy is

2019-11-26 05:43:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

im not going to argue

2019-11-26 05:43:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

i want to genuinely understand what a command economy is

2019-11-26 05:43:52 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

because i dont understand it, admittedly

2019-11-26 05:44:33 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

and how does it determine that

2019-11-26 05:44:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

also isnt that state capitalism?

2019-11-26 05:45:29 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

but a communist would call it state capitalism
and a capitalist would call it state socialism

2019-11-26 05:46:00 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

ok

2019-11-26 05:46:23 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

wasnt that the USSR, and didn't they fail to give even basic appliances to their people

2019-11-26 05:46:28 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

like fridges, toasters etc.

2019-11-26 05:46:58 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

so a command economy

2019-11-26 05:47:03 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

is both private & public entities

2019-11-26 05:47:48 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

this is socialism

2019-11-26 05:47:53 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

command economy/planned economy

2019-11-26 05:47:57 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

is the model used for socialism

2019-11-26 05:48:40 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

so what is in and of itself socialism

2019-11-26 05:49:20 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

afaik the USSR had no private business

2019-11-26 05:50:10 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

what do you think about dirigisme

2019-11-26 05:50:39 UTC [The Right Cafe #chat]  

also what is the difference between

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