Message from @Maksim

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2019-11-26 05:44:39 UTC  

also isnt that state capitalism?

2019-11-26 05:45:01 UTC  

Command Economy does not equal communism or capitalism or anything like that

2019-11-26 05:45:28 UTC  

It determines that in a plethora of factors

2019-11-26 05:45:29 UTC  

but a communist would call it state capitalism
and a capitalist would call it state socialism

2019-11-26 05:45:52 UTC  

Like shortages, surpluses, International affairs, domestic needs, trade, inflation/deflation, etc etc

2019-11-26 05:46:00 UTC  

ok

2019-11-26 05:46:09 UTC  

It's not state capitalism

2019-11-26 05:46:23 UTC  

wasnt that the USSR, and didn't they fail to give even basic appliances to their people

2019-11-26 05:46:25 UTC  

State capitalism implies private entities

2019-11-26 05:46:28 UTC  

like fridges, toasters etc.

2019-11-26 05:46:37 UTC  

In a command economy, it cns be either state owned companies or private companies

2019-11-26 05:46:49 UTC  

Not exclusively one or the other

2019-11-26 05:46:58 UTC  

so a command economy

2019-11-26 05:47:03 UTC  

is both private & public entities

2019-11-26 05:47:06 UTC  

No

2019-11-26 05:47:11 UTC  

It can be either

2019-11-26 05:47:20 UTC  

It dosent matter

2019-11-26 05:47:48 UTC  

this is socialism

2019-11-26 05:47:53 UTC  

command economy/planned economy

2019-11-26 05:47:57 UTC  

is the model used for socialism

2019-11-26 05:48:12 UTC  

Not entirely correct

2019-11-26 05:48:29 UTC  

It is the model used for socialism, but it is not in of itself socialism

2019-11-26 05:48:40 UTC  

so what is in and of itself socialism

2019-11-26 05:49:02 UTC  

No private ownership of business

2019-11-26 05:49:20 UTC  

afaik the USSR had no private business

2019-11-26 05:49:26 UTC  

Mhm

2019-11-26 05:50:10 UTC  

what do you think about dirigisme

2019-11-26 05:50:21 UTC  

Not faimilar with whatever it is

2019-11-26 05:50:39 UTC  

also what is the difference between

2019-11-26 05:50:47 UTC  

market socialism & state socialism?

2019-11-26 05:50:59 UTC  

im assuming state socialism is a planned economy with no private business

2019-11-26 05:51:08 UTC  

and market socialism is a planned economy with private business

2019-11-26 05:51:14 UTC  

Not bad idea

2019-11-26 05:51:33 UTC  

I would assume they are the same thing

2019-11-26 05:52:25 UTC  

Strasserism, National Bolshevism, and social nationalism are all essentially the same thing

2019-11-26 05:52:30 UTC  

yes

2019-11-26 05:52:48 UTC  

Anti-Capitalist Nationalism

2019-11-26 05:52:57 UTC  

Which is the best path

2019-11-26 05:52:57 UTC  

what about national socialism

2019-11-26 05:53:14 UTC  

they were both anti capitalist & anti communist