Message from @Maksim

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2019-11-26 05:47:11 UTC  

It can be either

2019-11-26 05:47:20 UTC  

It dosent matter

2019-11-26 05:47:48 UTC  

this is socialism

2019-11-26 05:47:53 UTC  

command economy/planned economy

2019-11-26 05:47:57 UTC  

is the model used for socialism

2019-11-26 05:48:12 UTC  

Not entirely correct

2019-11-26 05:48:29 UTC  

It is the model used for socialism, but it is not in of itself socialism

2019-11-26 05:48:40 UTC  

so what is in and of itself socialism

2019-11-26 05:49:02 UTC  

No private ownership of business

2019-11-26 05:49:20 UTC  

afaik the USSR had no private business

2019-11-26 05:49:26 UTC  

Mhm

2019-11-26 05:50:10 UTC  

what do you think about dirigisme

2019-11-26 05:50:21 UTC  

Not faimilar with whatever it is

2019-11-26 05:50:39 UTC  

also what is the difference between

2019-11-26 05:50:47 UTC  

market socialism & state socialism?

2019-11-26 05:50:59 UTC  

im assuming state socialism is a planned economy with no private business

2019-11-26 05:51:08 UTC  

and market socialism is a planned economy with private business

2019-11-26 05:51:14 UTC  

Not bad idea

2019-11-26 05:51:33 UTC  

I would assume they are the same thing

2019-11-26 05:52:25 UTC  

Strasserism, National Bolshevism, and social nationalism are all essentially the same thing

2019-11-26 05:52:30 UTC  

yes

2019-11-26 05:52:48 UTC  

Anti-Capitalist Nationalism

2019-11-26 05:52:57 UTC  

Which is the best path

2019-11-26 05:52:57 UTC  

what about national socialism

2019-11-26 05:53:14 UTC  

they were both anti capitalist & anti communist

2019-11-26 05:53:27 UTC  

You'd need to first seperate Hitlerism from National Socialism

2019-11-26 05:53:43 UTC  

and what is hitlerism

2019-11-26 05:53:56 UTC  

True National Socialism *is* strasserism. Hitler followed basically none of the NS Party doctrines

2019-11-26 05:54:11 UTC  

hitler was more in favour of the free market

2019-11-26 05:54:38 UTC  

Which is why we draw a difference

2019-11-26 05:54:44 UTC  

Between National Socialism and Hitlerism

2019-11-26 05:55:04 UTC  

it is essentially

2019-11-26 05:55:10 UTC  

planned economy versus state capitalism?

2019-11-26 05:55:16 UTC  

Hitler's economy worked on Government contracts

2019-11-26 05:55:41 UTC  

Government says to company "do this and I'll pay u" and company said "ok I will do this for u'

2019-11-26 05:55:53 UTC  

fair enough

2019-11-26 05:55:58 UTC  

they also did nationalise some areas

2019-11-26 05:56:08 UTC  

And also privatized some areas

2019-11-26 05:56:20 UTC  

which makes sense

2019-11-26 05:56:25 UTC  

u shld never make everything publically owned