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National Bolshevism is on the same level of retardation as Anarcho Fascism

The closest you get to "National Bolshevism" is really just Strasserism

Well NazBol like what was came to in the video is, its just Marxist leninism that doesn't deny race. Still stupid

Strasserism is stupid for other reasons like being neo fudalism

No it’s not lol, Nazbol is revisionist idiocy which completely abandons the core tenets of ML by doing away with the idea of internationalism and sees the socialist state as a goal in itself not a tool to end class conflict and transition to communism @Zoltanous

still better than strasserism which is just nazism with a Teenie more social programs but yea

@Gromp Imagine bashing historical revisionism and also denying Stalin's policies caused the Holodomor

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What the hell are you talkin about all the people who're apart of the original National Bolshevik movement still identified as communist and Marxist first-hand. It's simple read the f****** Manifesto, literally a worker council state. Sees internationalism as an end gaol in the futur. This is purely on the German manifestation not they Social Democrat Russian one that's not even socialist.

Imagine calling yourself a National Bolshevik when you are just a Marxist who believes in race

Its so sad and pathetic seeing people who actually believe in that trash

Stalin somewhat believed in race so I suppose he is a National Bolshevik

Next to that National Bolshevik racial views aren't that much different than Marx in terms of race relations. The guy was more racist and a real practical terms than Hitler. Modern communism Implemented intersectionality which is why it has humanism inside of it unlike original Marxism. Marx rejected humanism as a type of idealism, next to that the guy hated degenerate because he saw them as a product of the capitalist system ie lumpin proletariat which most communist fall into ironically.

Original Marxism didn't incorporate humanism?

ex dee

Im doing a thunk rn

I care not anyway

My disagreements with Marx like Strasser are more flushed in terms of overall philosophy, ontology, and economics anyways

I dont even really care about this anyway there isnt a point in arguing

All reds deserve zero tolerance and shouldn't be allowed to operate on a platform.

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

discord is dying rn

I'll go even further if you're a fascist and you disagree with Hitler you also don't deserve a platform

discord is dying rn

What are you then?

I identify with national socialism more than anything

*Shakes hand*

What do y'all think of fourth positionism?

What’s that?

It's a political theory proposed by Aleksandr Dugin in collaboration with Alain De Benoist which aims to put forward an anti-liberal ideology that goes beyond liberalism, socialism, and fascism (the first, second, and third positions)

A political theory adapted for our post-liberal age

To boil it down to the absolute Kellogg's bare basics it is a communitarian ideology in both the economic and social sense, though of course it's much, much more than that

Got a link to book bout it?

They have a website full of articles and related books, just type in 4pt

I'd recommend starting with their first two articles in the manifesto section

Aight thanks

No problem

I guess it depends on what this fourth position becomes

If it is true to universal truth and natural law it will not be much different to Fascism though