Message from @Zoltanous

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2019-12-07 15:41:01 UTC  

@Π–-12 hell yeah, who doesnt love feds πŸ™‚

2019-12-07 15:41:50 UTC  

who doesnt love destroying competitors in order to keep the degenerate status quo?

2019-12-07 15:43:01 UTC  

πŸ˜ŽπŸ‘

2019-12-07 17:42:58 UTC  

National Bolshevism is on the same level of retardation as Anarcho Fascism

2019-12-07 17:43:50 UTC  

The closest you get to "National Bolshevism" is really just Strasserism

2019-12-07 18:00:13 UTC  

Well NazBol like what was came to in the video is, its just Marxist leninism that doesn't deny race. Still stupid

2019-12-07 18:00:33 UTC  

Strasserism is stupid for other reasons like being neo fudalism

2019-12-07 18:13:08 UTC  

No it’s not lol, Nazbol is revisionist idiocy which completely abandons the core tenets of ML by doing away with the idea of internationalism and sees the socialist state as a goal in itself not a tool to end class conflict and transition to communism @Zoltanous

2019-12-07 18:13:27 UTC  

still better than strasserism which is just nazism with a Teenie more social programs but yea

2019-12-07 18:44:30 UTC  

@Gromp Imagine bashing historical revisionism and also denying Stalin's policies caused the Holodomor

2019-12-07 18:45:09 UTC  

πŸ€”

2019-12-07 18:45:42 UTC  

What the hell are you talkin about all the people who're apart of the original National Bolshevik movement still identified as communist and Marxist first-hand. It's simple read the f****** Manifesto, literally a worker council state. Sees internationalism as an end gaol in the futur. This is purely on the German manifestation not they Social Democrat Russian one that's not even socialist.

2019-12-07 18:46:56 UTC  

Imagine calling yourself a National Bolshevik when you are just a Marxist who believes in race

2019-12-07 18:47:22 UTC  

Its so sad and pathetic seeing people who actually believe in that trash

2019-12-07 18:48:02 UTC  

Stalin somewhat believed in race so I suppose he is a National Bolshevik

2019-12-07 18:48:23 UTC  

Next to that National Bolshevik racial views aren't that much different than Marx in terms of race relations. The guy was more racist and a real practical terms than Hitler. Modern communism Implemented intersectionality which is why it has humanism inside of it unlike original Marxism. Marx rejected humanism as a type of idealism, next to that the guy hated degenerate because he saw them as a product of the capitalist system ie lumpin proletariat which most communist fall into ironically.

2019-12-07 18:49:18 UTC  

Original Marxism didn't incorporate humanism?

2019-12-07 18:49:20 UTC  

ex dee

2019-12-07 18:49:29 UTC  

Im doing a thunk rn

2019-12-07 18:51:36 UTC  

I care not anyway

2019-12-07 18:51:44 UTC  

My disagreements with Marx like Strasser are more flushed in terms of overall philosophy, ontology, and economics anyways

2019-12-07 18:52:12 UTC  

I dont even really care about this anyway there isnt a point in arguing

2019-12-07 18:52:21 UTC  

All reds deserve zero tolerance and shouldn't be allowed to operate on a platform.

2019-12-07 18:52:33 UTC  

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

2019-12-07 18:52:46 UTC  

the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end

2019-12-07 18:52:50 UTC  

discord is dying rn

2019-12-07 18:52:51 UTC  

I'll go even further if you're a fascist and you disagree with Hitler you also don't deserve a platform

2019-12-07 18:53:03 UTC  

discord is dying rn

2019-12-07 18:53:23 UTC  

What are you then?

2019-12-07 18:53:47 UTC  

I identify with national socialism more than anything

2019-12-07 18:53:59 UTC  

*Shakes hand*

2019-12-07 23:37:59 UTC  

What do y'all think of fourth positionism?

2019-12-07 23:38:25 UTC  

What’s that?

2019-12-07 23:42:44 UTC  

It's a political theory proposed by Aleksandr Dugin in collaboration with Alain De Benoist which aims to put forward an anti-liberal ideology that goes beyond liberalism, socialism, and fascism (the first, second, and third positions)

2019-12-07 23:42:58 UTC  

A political theory adapted for our post-liberal age

2019-12-07 23:43:12 UTC  

To boil it down to the absolute Kellogg's bare basics it is a communitarian ideology in both the economic and social sense, though of course it's much, much more than that

2019-12-07 23:51:55 UTC  

Got a link to book bout it?

2019-12-07 23:54:23 UTC  

They have a website full of articles and related books, just type in 4pt

2019-12-07 23:54:41 UTC  

I'd recommend starting with their first two articles in the manifesto section

2019-12-07 23:54:45 UTC  

Aight thanks

2019-12-08 00:02:37 UTC  

No problem