Message from @Zoltanous
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who doesnt love destroying competitors in order to keep the degenerate status quo?
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National Bolshevism is on the same level of retardation as Anarcho Fascism
The closest you get to "National Bolshevism" is really just Strasserism
Well NazBol like what was came to in the video is, its just Marxist leninism that doesn't deny race. Still stupid
Strasserism is stupid for other reasons like being neo fudalism
No itβs not lol, Nazbol is revisionist idiocy which completely abandons the core tenets of ML by doing away with the idea of internationalism and sees the socialist state as a goal in itself not a tool to end class conflict and transition to communism @Zoltanous
still better than strasserism which is just nazism with a Teenie more social programs but yea
@Gromp Imagine bashing historical revisionism and also denying Stalin's policies caused the Holodomor
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What the hell are you talkin about all the people who're apart of the original National Bolshevik movement still identified as communist and Marxist first-hand. It's simple read the f****** Manifesto, literally a worker council state. Sees internationalism as an end gaol in the futur. This is purely on the German manifestation not they Social Democrat Russian one that's not even socialist.
Imagine calling yourself a National Bolshevik when you are just a Marxist who believes in race
Its so sad and pathetic seeing people who actually believe in that trash
Stalin somewhat believed in race so I suppose he is a National Bolshevik
Next to that National Bolshevik racial views aren't that much different than Marx in terms of race relations. The guy was more racist and a real practical terms than Hitler. Modern communism Implemented intersectionality which is why it has humanism inside of it unlike original Marxism. Marx rejected humanism as a type of idealism, next to that the guy hated degenerate because he saw them as a product of the capitalist system ie lumpin proletariat which most communist fall into ironically.
Original Marxism didn't incorporate humanism?
ex dee
Im doing a thunk rn
I care not anyway
My disagreements with Marx like Strasser are more flushed in terms of overall philosophy, ontology, and economics anyways
I dont even really care about this anyway there isnt a point in arguing
All reds deserve zero tolerance and shouldn't be allowed to operate on a platform.
the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end
the way I see it Marxists and "National Bolsheviks" alike deserve the same end
discord is dying rn
I'll go even further if you're a fascist and you disagree with Hitler you also don't deserve a platform
discord is dying rn
What are you then?
I identify with national socialism more than anything
*Shakes hand*
What do y'all think of fourth positionism?
Whatβs that?
It's a political theory proposed by Aleksandr Dugin in collaboration with Alain De Benoist which aims to put forward an anti-liberal ideology that goes beyond liberalism, socialism, and fascism (the first, second, and third positions)
A political theory adapted for our post-liberal age
To boil it down to the absolute Kellogg's bare basics it is a communitarian ideology in both the economic and social sense, though of course it's much, much more than that
Got a link to book bout it?
They have a website full of articles and related books, just type in 4pt
I'd recommend starting with their first two articles in the manifesto section
Aight thanks
No problem