you would have to pay heavy taxes to afford the universay education and healthcare

thats from the state not some capitalist

sure you may have some more spending money

but you cant create programs without money

ur not understanding what im saying... im saying that we need to reorganize production to REMOVE the profit motive. the surplus value extracted from the worker that would traditionally go to fatten a capitalist's wallet

would be reimbursed to the worker

I don't go to the doctor to begin with. So if someone ruins their body, they get the 100k in bills or so paid for with my labor, but if I don't go to the doctor and spend only 5k through out my life, that's fine?

i suggest reading the gotha programme

Who

The fuck

Pinged

Me

I will unleash hell's wrath

@sato13193 this, fuck doctors they suck at their job

fuckers didnt diagnose my grandpas cancer until he fucking died from it

never got the care he needed

what a fucking thanks he gets for being in vietnam

'Healthcare' should be trying to prevent the problems.

yes. and you say "if someone ruins their body" like the profit generated from your labor couldn't be used to help an organ transplant for a congenitally ill person. the money can be used in various different ways

and you're also receiving the equal access to care the care needed

so wtf does that matter anyways

"You pretend to pay me, and I pretend to work."

economic

would you rather have the money lining ur bosses wallet or in a hospital

to me

I would rather it going to me.

id rather it go to me first so i may take care of my family as a priority

then we have an axiomatic disagreement here. i believe in the greatest good for the greatest amount of people possible is the most beneficial

the larger community is less important then my own family

cant atomize it much further than that you guys

you believe in a utopia

greatest good to the greatest number of people is a very small number

otherwise the resources required is massive

I don't want my labor to help some obese person survive, they should pay for their own healthcare, if they can't then why not, most oftenly it's because they didn't take care of themselves and eat like shit.

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fatties should be sent to labor camps to work until fit or they die

your "greatest good" is basically enslavement to muh healthcare

benefits the nation because of production and more fit people@sato13193

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Everyone having an equally shit and unproductive life sounds bad ngl

As opposed to