Message from @Spergerger

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2019-12-18 18:06:54 UTC  

oh so you were being deliberately slippery

2019-12-18 18:07:00 UTC  

hitler liquidated many labor unions and labor leaders and replaced them with a government regulated labor union

2019-12-18 18:07:06 UTC  

capitalism is what i meant by capital

2019-12-18 18:07:21 UTC  

yeah... so did I. That's why it's called capitalism after all

2019-12-18 18:07:32 UTC  

And the share of national income that went to capital grew under the Nazis

2019-12-18 18:07:33 UTC  

So

2019-12-18 18:07:38 UTC  

Idk what else you'd call that

2019-12-18 18:07:44 UTC  

Except protecting capital

2019-12-18 18:07:52 UTC  

Corporatism

2019-12-18 18:08:40 UTC  

well yes
but so did the soviets effectively
you werent allowed to go against the state lol

2019-12-18 18:09:31 UTC  

yeah and that's another problem I have with the soviets as a socialist industrial unionist

2019-12-18 18:09:39 UTC  

Labor organization was organized by the state mostly

2019-12-18 18:10:09 UTC  

BASED

2019-12-18 18:10:15 UTC  

How does criticizing the soviets make me a tankie again? Lol

2019-12-18 18:10:16 UTC  

so as i expected not really anything there tbh

2019-12-18 18:10:24 UTC  

Or a larper

2019-12-18 18:10:25 UTC  

Or whatever

2019-12-18 18:10:35 UTC  

thats for the guy that called you a tankie to say

2019-12-18 18:10:56 UTC  

Just because I recognize that I share more in common with a socialist than a Nazi

2019-12-18 18:11:13 UTC  

not in the case of the soviets

2019-12-18 18:12:26 UTC  

youre reasoning was that you werent equally aligned because hitler protected capitalism and was funded by wealthy people

2019-12-18 18:13:07 UTC  

you dont have any evidence for the former except
more profit being made
and the later applies to the soviets as well so?

2019-12-18 18:14:40 UTC  

yeh kinda strange
but but but..
i rescind my accusation of larper
you were just misinformed

2019-12-18 18:14:49 UTC  

no. you said that the Nazis were pursuing an alternative to capital and because of that I was aligned to both. I was just saying that was bullshit lol

2019-12-18 18:15:43 UTC  

how does more profit being made = more capitalism
when the soviet union industrialised it had greater returns on capital
did it get more capitalist???

2019-12-18 18:15:58 UTC  

was the tzar a socialist

2019-12-18 18:16:24 UTC  

trying to save his country from evil capitalist backed communocapitalists?

2019-12-18 18:16:32 UTC  

absolute nonsense

2019-12-18 18:18:36 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/587015719141507102/656923287250534430/Screenshot_20191218-100439.jpg

2019-12-18 18:18:37 UTC  

I mean, Hitler's economy was capitalist, but he wasn't a capitalist. What I mean is basically the Third Reich's economy was capitalist but this was just cause Hitler hadn't finished all the economic reforms he would've done.

2019-12-18 18:18:59 UTC  

i think that the increase on returns is easily explained by tech advancements and longer working hours due to war probably

2019-12-18 18:19:11 UTC  

>hitlers economy was capitalist
Even though it wasnt...
Okay

2019-12-18 18:19:22 UTC  

no thats not what i said

2019-12-18 18:19:34 UTC  

i said he pursued an alternative to capital

2019-12-18 18:19:37 UTC  

@M240DualWielder it was interventionist

2019-12-18 18:19:43 UTC  

But still capitalist

2019-12-18 18:19:49 UTC  

Mixed economy

2019-12-18 18:19:55 UTC  

Would be a better term

2019-12-18 18:20:10 UTC  

Hitler didn't nationalize that much stuff though

2019-12-18 18:20:11 UTC  

the ussr was also a state capitalist country
but they obviously intended on becoming communist up until a certain point

2019-12-18 18:20:26 UTC  

They were state socialist