Message from @Verchiel

Discord ID: 649307724290588672


2019-11-27 17:48:53 UTC  

And the German here in the family loves them lol.

2019-11-27 17:50:26 UTC  

You spoke of dreams; I wish I could induce lucids and projections like I used to, but right now my sleep schedule is all over the damn place.

2019-11-27 17:50:52 UTC  

Many of my greatest revelations and visitations have come through these states.

2019-11-27 17:51:10 UTC  

Oh yes, I'm way into PIE studies. our ancestors were badass af lol

2019-11-27 17:51:35 UTC  

+++

2019-11-27 17:51:45 UTC  

Yeah I go lucid pretty frequently these days

2019-11-27 17:52:08 UTC  

I reached this point where I no longer have any negative or fearful dreams

2019-11-27 17:52:16 UTC  

There's no place for fear there really

2019-11-27 17:52:42 UTC  

I get 'frightening dreams', but not necessarily nightmares, if you get what I mean.

2019-11-27 17:52:57 UTC  

The connotation is obviously negative, but it's not so bad that it becomes unmanageable.

2019-11-27 17:53:20 UTC  

One last night I received was quite violent and frightening in retrospect, yet I didn't wake.

2019-11-27 17:53:36 UTC  

I don't experience fear in dreams. I think it's a natural part of working with dreams and similar liminal states (e.g. psychedelics)

2019-11-27 17:53:59 UTC  

This is true. Easier said than done of course, but it is necessary.

2019-11-27 17:54:15 UTC  

Especially when working with psychedelics--that fear is removed from the experience.

2019-11-27 17:54:25 UTC  

Not with Salvia, which is why it is my favorite

2019-11-27 17:54:37 UTC  

It doesn't coddle you with any kind of euphoric feelings. It's just a raw ego death

2019-11-27 17:54:51 UTC  

That was my first ever real trip was a breakthrough Salvia experience

2019-11-27 17:54:55 UTC  

Though I'd been there before, funny enough

2019-11-27 17:55:18 UTC  

😩 Lord you're one of those. It's very difficult for me to get a grip on those experiences, which is why I haven't done Salvia.

2019-11-27 17:55:41 UTC  

The Goddess, which would be Wisdom itself I'd assume, who presides over Salvia, is very unforgiving.

2019-11-27 17:57:05 UTC  

You remind me of a wise friend and mentor of mine.

2019-11-27 17:57:24 UTC  

Salvia is his native world, it would seem.

2019-11-27 17:57:49 UTC  

I like to call him Yajnavalkya of Veda lol.

2019-11-27 18:01:29 UTC  

At the beginning of the month, I astral projected three times. One had me bulleting through a parking garage down at the oceanfront somewhere, darting straight into the air and falling, tumbling dizzyingly from above into the ocean at several hundred miles an hour and plunging down into the ocean, continuing under without a decrease in speed. I could see the houses and buildings around the coast as I was coming down.

2019-11-27 18:02:27 UTC  

I could feel the temperature and texture of the water as things became darker, and then I came-to and awoke in my bed.

2019-11-27 18:03:13 UTC  

I've had a similar one to this. Went straight out my window into the sky outside above my neighbourhood and into the sunlight before coming back.

2019-11-27 18:05:25 UTC  

How many times did you practice till you officially astral projected?

2019-11-27 18:05:35 UTC  

Others have been in black and white, and I'm floating aimlessly in an indiscernible location for which, only abstract textures and some signatures of sensory, and vague geometry are my company.

2019-11-27 18:05:48 UTC  

I've only had one induced astral projection.

2019-11-27 18:05:52 UTC  

@Misha It's easier with a psych or dissociative, but can be done endogenously

2019-11-27 18:06:04 UTC  

I came out of my body, went in my parents' room and sat on the bed/heard and watched them sleep.

2019-11-27 18:06:05 UTC  

I( feel like psychs and dissos can be tools to help teach you and wire your brain for achieving those states

2019-11-27 18:06:10 UTC  

That was a while ago.

2019-11-27 18:06:28 UTC  

I can leave my body pretty easily but I've found it takes time to get deep enough for that state

2019-11-27 18:06:45 UTC  

Neurologically it's associated with theta EEG rhythms as a correlate

2019-11-27 18:06:58 UTC  

Whereas earlier meditation phases tend to be more alpha dominant

2019-11-27 18:07:06 UTC  

+++

2019-11-27 18:07:35 UTC  

When I induced a projection, I used theta frequencies as supplementary to the meditation.

2019-11-27 18:07:55 UTC  

I fell asleep, woke up that same night having failed, and then tried it again

2019-11-27 18:08:02 UTC  

The same night, popped right out of body

2019-11-27 18:08:07 UTC  

Around 6am