Message from @Fizzle

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2019-02-05 10:56:24 UTC  

Yeet, cultural globalization is gay.

2019-02-05 10:57:05 UTC  

its fucking stupid.

The reason we go to other countries is to see their culture and their traditions, why the fuck would i wanna go to another country if it has the same culture and traditions

2019-02-05 10:57:36 UTC  

Because cultural contact does not work like that. Chinese food and European food are not the same thing because chinese fusion exists and chinese fusion isnt really like either

2019-02-05 10:58:23 UTC  

its not the same thing no, but some people want to grey out culture and make it to this grey blend

2019-02-05 10:58:44 UTC  

There, of course, is a difference between cultural exchange and the absorbtion of cultures by one dominant one.

2019-02-05 10:59:15 UTC  

thats true, but still. Im from sweden and our culture is slooowly dying off, we still have some swedish dominated traditions but still

2019-02-05 10:59:17 UTC  

I have no idea who wants a grey culture

2019-02-05 10:59:28 UTC  

alot of people, globalization

2019-02-05 11:00:13 UTC  

It's less of desire and it being a byproduct of certain economic policies, or meddling of corporations.

2019-02-05 11:00:21 UTC  

and immigration

2019-02-05 11:00:48 UTC  

most dangerous thing is making nationalism and being proud of your culture and country taboo

2019-02-05 11:00:52 UTC  

which has happened in sweden

2019-02-05 11:01:06 UTC  

There seems to be a lot of misunderstanding as to what globalisation is. Globalisation in this context just describes that some elements of a culture will find greater utility worldwide than others.
Like not beating your wife say.
Or going to work on time.

2019-02-05 11:01:52 UTC  

Or eating fast food instead of feeding yourself normally, because it takes a quicker lunch break.

2019-02-05 11:03:01 UTC  

hm interesting

2019-02-05 11:03:12 UTC  

That’s a choice can people either go with or not but it seems petty to go around enforcing other people take longer lunch breaks because you dont like it.
Agree that people need to figure out how to do some in a way thats more healthy however

2019-02-05 11:03:26 UTC  

Or consuming unneeded products because it supports the economy.

2019-02-05 11:04:13 UTC  

Do you do that kaz?

2019-02-05 11:04:42 UTC  

I dont know anyone who buys random shit purely to support the economy

2019-02-05 11:04:59 UTC  

I know people who buy random shit because they like random shit

2019-02-05 11:08:24 UTC  

idk, im just wanting to be able to be proud of my country and show it without being called a racist

2019-02-05 11:08:26 UTC  

But on what you said earlier fizzle unfortunately theres been an equivocation that being proud of the achievements of a culture is somehow bad or pride in your country for its capacity to deliver a greater life to its inhabitants is somehow bad because a bunch of larping neo-nazis also equate themselves with a variation of that theme which is shite

2019-02-05 11:08:45 UTC  

You should be proud of your country

2019-02-05 11:09:27 UTC  

There are much worse countries then Sweden

2019-02-05 11:09:30 UTC  

Like russia

2019-02-05 11:09:57 UTC  

yes, thats true, sweden has an immigration problem, but we used to be so much greater, hell we have become an antisocial awkward society

2019-02-05 11:10:29 UTC  

its shown in our politics that alot of people are starting to get tired of taking in immigrants and getting called the rape capital of europe,

2019-02-05 11:12:23 UTC  

I think europe as a whole has been suffering from a really poor understanding of what immigration is supposed to accomplish, namely an acceptance of those willing and able to contribute to your national project, instead opting for an open door policy

2019-02-05 11:12:50 UTC  

@CronoSaturn The culture of buying random stuff, as opposed to stuff of merit is being instilled in people through advertisement.

2019-02-05 11:13:19 UTC  

Granted, we cannot escape ads completely, but the current situation is intolerable.

2019-02-05 11:14:08 UTC  

I think that people should develop a culture of not being a dumb cunt and buying shit just because its on tv goes without saying. For those that refuse to develop that self control its not my burden to bear

2019-02-05 11:15:01 UTC  

That is similar to saying that cocaine should be legalized because people can control themselves and not get hooked up on it.

2019-02-05 11:15:21 UTC  

Not all people possess the will and self-control as others.

2019-02-05 11:15:39 UTC  

Doesn't mean the consumer culture needs to screw them over.

2019-02-05 11:15:41 UTC  

exactly crono, id rather accept asian based people in sweden, rather than middle eastern or african, because they have statisticially shown not to adapt to the culture, instead trying to rebell against it or act against it

2019-02-05 11:17:57 UTC  

Kaz Understood, but neither can nor am willing to pay the cost to enforce it on others, granted consumer protections need exist and we can have a conversation as to what they should look like but if people are purely buying shit because its shiny and they just *have* to have it nothing I can do can help them

2019-02-05 11:20:08 UTC  

I dont even think “adapting” to the culture is necessary per se so much as engaging productively with society. Your indian guy who has his lil shrine in the taxi? No problem, old mate has a job, pays his bills, and if that shrine and doing indian cultural shit is what makes them happy and being in the country makes them happy who am i to say no?

2019-02-05 11:20:44 UTC  

It’s where people dont like the country, wont engage productively and wont leave

2019-02-05 11:20:58 UTC  

Migrant or non-migrant, not a fan of that

2019-02-05 11:22:16 UTC  

Whoever you are if your just on welfare bitching about the country but doing nothing in order to actually make it better you need a swift kick in the ass

2019-02-05 11:22:30 UTC  

Or go somewhere else