Message from @Cyboman
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Not even that most of the time. Retrospectively we group them together, they often didn’t see themselves in the same group
they all identified as greeks and was similar to the old American Confederacy before the constitution
Sometimes they identified as Persian, actually
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
no
they allied with Persians sometimes but did not identify as them
greece is going to hell and america is too
Yeah, in what way did "Greece" fall?
the collapse of 600BCE
it was big and strong, then it collapsed and got small and weak and then the romans took it over
yuh
Quite a few Greek states were established as, or became Persian colonies, used Persian currency, language and accepted Persian cultural norms
Fucking 300 isn’t a reliable source bra
you seem to not see what I am typing because I clearly said THEY ALLIED WITH PERSIOAN SOMETIMES
that does not make them Persian
Becoming a colony is a lil more then becoming an ally
They were directly governed or even created by persia for periods
they were still ethnically greek and back then it was mostly about ethnicity and ideals
^ yuh
They didn’t really have a concept of ethnicity and it didn’t consistently extend to other states
are you retarded
ying
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read Plato's the republic
Not in the way you people are describing
he was a greek from that era and laid out how a republic can work
yes in the way we are describing, and ethnic collective of Europeans instead of Semites like the Persians.
Persian and meditation are not the same ethnicity.
Ok so I've never heard of this ancient Grecian collapse you mention sound 600-500 and a quick search brings up nothing
What are you talking about?
Can’t recall that being mentioned in the republic. Best I can recall is the metallic classes
Not an ethnicity thing though
Ethnicity is a relatively modern concept
So your book which is not the republic says the republic says it
You see the issue here
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Did a quick look and funny enough at least in my translation ‘ethnicity’ doesn’t even appear
which volume do you have?
it's sectioned into multiple volumes