Message from @Trini Dayana Rivera

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2018-04-23 14:23:43 UTC  

Even if they are too long, I still try to match the body portions. If the legs are too long, then I match the torso and the arms. Head too big but not the hands? Then I try to match the hands. Imo "Too skinny" or "Too Long" is not good enough criticism. Every time I hear that it's by people who think an art style in a girls cartoon sets bad examples for young girls. "Ew Winx club? The art style is horrible and a bad example because little girls look up to that and will starve themselves to look like them" Basically nobody can enjoy anything because apparently it's bad. It's a trivial argument and it's getting annoying. I draw slender girls and guys. That's my art style. Plenty of people have similar art styles, that doesn't make it bad or wrong.

yes I'm triggered. The whole criticism of a person's signature art style is trivial and I usually see that by SJW artists who bash on another artist for drawing characters too skinny. That's the reason I left tumblr, because I felt like my art style wouldn't be accepted. Everyone draws differently.

2018-04-23 14:42:41 UTC  

Trini, I honestly couldn't care less about about cartoons setting bad examples for children and making girls starve themselves. That is a whole another argument I'm not getting into. What I'm saying is that I am coming from a _technical_ perspective.

I saw your art, and I thought it looked off. Like I said, the angle the body is at looks weird and misaligned. The torso goes to a sharp curve toward the hip, making her barely have a waist. You should be able to see some of the other shoulder even if the hair is covering it up. The other shoulder should face more forward, like more to the side. Her breasts should also face more to the side. Besides from what I perceive as too long, the arm also seems floppy, like it doesn't have a bone.

2018-04-23 14:42:46 UTC  

There.

2018-04-23 14:43:40 UTC  

You can take it or leave it, Trini, I can't tell how you draw. I'm only giving you some advice based on my perspective on art, that is all.

2018-04-23 14:47:10 UTC  

That sounds like better criticism tbh.. Thank you

2018-04-23 14:47:45 UTC  

You're welcome. I'm sorry I wasn't clear earlier.

2018-04-24 00:13:43 UTC  

@fate I'm having a bit of trouble with the guy's arm around the girl.. does it look a bit off?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400444292952489986/438130381745553420/unknown.png

2018-04-24 00:15:21 UTC  

IT LOOKED FINE UNTIL I STARTED COLORING AND NOW I'M STARTING TO NOTICE ERRORS

2018-04-24 00:15:26 UTC  

It's okay!

2018-04-24 00:15:54 UTC  

That's why it's a good idea to flip your canvas every once in a while, because once it's inverted, you notice mistakes

2018-04-24 00:16:21 UTC  

...oh.. that's what the feature is for...

2018-04-24 00:16:27 UTC  

...

2018-04-24 00:16:36 UTC  

It's totally alright my dude

2018-04-24 00:17:14 UTC  

I've been through several art classes and I'm still shading wrong, sometimes.

2018-04-24 00:17:33 UTC  

I'm mainly self taught. can't afford art classes

2018-04-24 00:18:39 UTC  

But to the point, yes, his arm looks off. Like an noodle again. It would make more sense to put the arm back, so the only thing showing on her waist/hips is his hand.

2018-04-24 00:18:45 UTC  

lol i went to public school

2018-04-24 00:19:05 UTC  

ive also been mainly self-taught

2018-04-24 00:19:31 UTC  

Ah ok

2018-04-24 00:19:33 UTC  

thanks

2018-04-24 00:26:21 UTC  

better?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400444292952489986/438133564358524928/unknown.png

2018-04-24 00:51:06 UTC  

@fate How is making something inverted lead to spotting the mistakes?

2018-04-24 00:52:00 UTC  

@Trini Dayana Rivera Self-taught? I could barely draw anymore because I lack the motivation and confidence to improve.

2018-04-24 00:54:08 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/400444292952489986/438140555290214400/unknown.png

2018-04-24 00:55:30 UTC  

in a more completed sketch youd notice other things

2018-04-24 00:55:33 UTC  

but for ex.

2018-04-24 00:55:55 UTC  

inverted you notice the nose is too high up the face

2018-04-24 00:56:41 UTC  

or maybe youd realize an arm is positioned wrong

2018-04-24 00:56:50 UTC  

or that the shoulders don't actually match

2018-04-24 00:57:02 UTC  

its the same principle when you look at something upside down

2018-04-24 00:57:38 UTC  

the little things that are off in the artwork become much more noticeable when looked from a new angle

2018-04-24 00:58:38 UTC  

I can't seem to detect.

2018-04-24 00:58:51 UTC  

About the nose. It looks the same to me.

2018-04-24 00:59:20 UTC  

well dude this is a quick sketch that barely has anything im sure if i did something else youd notice something else

2018-04-24 01:00:22 UTC  

OKAY

2018-04-24 01:02:15 UTC  

The hand is obviously wrong, but notice how it comes more obvious that the lower body is actually too small for the lower body when its inverted?

2018-04-24 01:02:56 UTC  

This is why you flip the canvas. Because sometimes when you've been staring at something from the same angle over and over, you can't catch all the mistakes. Hence, inverting! Upside down! Sideways.

2018-04-24 01:03:03 UTC  

it gives u a more complete perspective