Message from @brut

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2019-11-10 05:28:50 UTC  

Back to training

2019-11-10 05:28:56 UTC  

If you need to be violent with your pet

2019-11-10 05:28:57 UTC  

well

2019-11-10 05:29:03 UTC  

oftentimes it's the trainer, not the pet

2019-11-10 05:29:17 UTC  

My mom wanted me to get an irish wolfhound or poodle

2019-11-10 05:29:22 UTC  

eh well I never claimed to be a trainer I just said it prevents violent animals

2019-11-10 05:29:59 UTC  

<:Kek:588178535785431076>

2019-11-10 05:30:28 UTC  

Problem with that is

2019-11-10 05:30:32 UTC  

Your dog isn't an idiot

2019-11-10 05:30:38 UTC  

and it knows the pain originates from you

2019-11-10 05:30:46 UTC  

But it's not a genius

2019-11-10 05:30:54 UTC  

I Suppose so

2019-11-10 05:30:59 UTC  

and it probably won't make the connection that the pain is a result of his own actions

2019-11-10 05:31:22 UTC  

so all you're doing is teaching the dog that violence is a thing that it can do

2019-11-10 05:32:02 UTC  

*Worst* case scenario? You instill this lesson.

"Hitting, slapping, and biting is a fun game that my owner plays with me. Let me try playing it with him, and with others."

2019-11-10 05:32:36 UTC  

Other bad lessons you could teach the dog?

2019-11-10 05:32:36 UTC  

doesn't seem to be very common if at all

2019-11-10 05:32:40 UTC  

"A person’s hand or face coming toward me, is a bad thing. I should run away from people, or bite the hand or face that is a threat to me."

2019-11-10 05:32:54 UTC  

L

2019-11-10 05:32:55 UTC  

O

2019-11-10 05:32:56 UTC  

@xTroubledxSoulx daily reminder that dogs are mans best friend and that dogs killed terrorists

2019-11-10 05:32:56 UTC  

L

2019-11-10 05:32:59 UTC  

murica fuck yeah

2019-11-10 05:33:04 UTC  

Another lesson you could give the dog?
"My owner, or a person coming toward me, means pain. I should stay away from people, or keep them away by growling and biting."

2019-11-10 05:33:28 UTC  

Hey, Incel. @Farunel Do those sound like things a dog could reasonably learn when you hit them?

2019-11-10 05:33:37 UTC  

haven't seen that either tbh as long as you socialize them

2019-11-10 05:34:05 UTC  

Creepers are sexy

2019-11-10 05:34:08 UTC  

hear me out

2019-11-10 05:34:10 UTC  

jk

2019-11-10 05:34:23 UTC  

Yeah, sounds about right to me. And any variation in between.

2019-11-10 05:34:56 UTC  

Also, socializing probably doesn't mean what you think it does if you think that. Socializing doesn't equate to tolerance of abuse lol

2019-11-10 05:35:11 UTC  

Also

2019-11-10 05:35:23 UTC  

Violence as a training method *is a part of socialization*

2019-11-10 05:35:31 UTC  

Quite literally.

2019-11-10 05:35:38 UTC  

no but I've not seen dogs suddenly be anti social because they get beat to the contrary I've seen them beaten for anti social behavior lmao such as barking nipping or growling at people

2019-11-10 05:35:38 UTC  

In every sense of the word socialization.

2019-11-10 05:35:56 UTC  

Well just because you've not seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

2019-11-10 05:36:24 UTC  

Moreover, I have seen dogs go from neutral to aggro because their owner hits them so I don't know what you're gonna do with that information.

2019-11-10 05:36:48 UTC  

UwU

2019-11-10 05:37:09 UTC  

Also it's proven that dogs respond better to reward-based discipline.