Message from @CiceroTheSecond

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2019-11-26 12:23:25 UTC  

You're fucking laughable. Try again when your IQ isn't the same as your age.

2019-11-26 12:38:27 UTC  

I thought this was dedicated to serious discussion not being a retarded @Puppet Master

2019-11-26 13:52:18 UTC  

@CiceroTheSecond Antifa are a bunch of weaklings

2019-11-26 13:52:30 UTC  

What can they do that then system can't?

2019-11-26 13:52:35 UTC  

this is true.

2019-11-26 13:52:59 UTC  

it’s been said if men cared about their bodies more, there would be no low-T, spineless commie wannabes roaming the streets & doxxing people

2019-11-26 13:56:01 UTC  

Exactly. So how could such weaklings be a great threat? Growing government surveillance is a much bigger one.

2019-11-26 14:00:15 UTC  

dude what? lmao it’s a numbers game. look what happened to the Proud Boys, Berkeley college, the routine protests antifa holds in the tri-state area on the east coast. they have operations in *fucking Nebraska.* it’s an intelligence/doxxing campaign mostly, but any domestic organizing will be met with antifa. they’ve effectively monopolized freedom of association. you’re gunna tell me the Feds matter (only extra-governmental surveillance matters like the ADL & SPLC; the supreme court in 1978 let actual american Nazis march through a predominantly neighborhood) if you get past antifa, then it’s a *different* problem, not the same one

2019-11-26 14:00:47 UTC  

the case i referenced was Collins vs. Smith (1978) btw

2019-11-26 14:01:07 UTC  

antifa matters because they swarm domestic groups. they’re shocktroops full stop. this is know by everyone

2019-11-26 14:02:30 UTC  

they’ve terrorized the minds of people who want change. like the immortal Mussolini said, “the socialists (in this case, antifa) ask what our program is. our program is to bash the heads of the socialists (again, antifa in modernity.) this is largely what Oswald Mosley did as well. mischaracterizations, bitter rage, all these things come from the opposition.

2019-11-26 14:02:45 UTC  

i’m not suggesting an equivalence btw. just saying

2019-11-26 14:08:44 UTC  

Sure they're a threat unorganized protesters, but if you organize a defense force you'd probably win. But the fact of the matter is that protests and rallies are not things that matter. Fascism is gonna be established by a revolution, not by protests.

2019-11-26 14:09:26 UTC  

And calling antifa socialists is an insult to socialism. They're a rabble of prog cowards.

2019-11-26 14:09:29 UTC  
2019-11-26 14:11:46 UTC  

Mosley organized a defense force and after that he was able to keep out the rabble.

2019-11-26 14:15:30 UTC  

that’s exactly what was implied by my message, defense tactics.

see also: “monopolizing freedom of association” & no, i didn’t say antifa are socialists; see “i’m not saying there’s an equivalence”

2019-11-26 14:15:38 UTC  

i agree with you on what needs to be done dude

2019-11-26 14:15:42 UTC  

it’s just no one has the balls

2019-11-26 14:15:49 UTC  

ideas are defended with force, not debates

2019-11-26 14:16:04 UTC  

youtube celebrities are fucking scum of the earth because they don’t organize the audience they have.

2019-11-26 14:17:23 UTC  

& a revolution is only successful *when the opposition is taken out.*

literally, hitler fought for what, 10 years just to get a chance at election? Walter Ulbricht had a stronghold on working-class neighborhoods in Berlin. in Mein Kampf, he talks about the reds infiltrating some meetings & starting fights.

2019-11-26 14:17:29 UTC  

paramilitary defense is the only way

2019-11-26 14:17:36 UTC  

antifa doesn’t believe in weapons lmfao

2019-11-26 14:20:05 UTC  

Yeah ok.

2019-11-26 14:20:26 UTC  

There are grassroots groups organizing to do stuff

2019-11-26 14:20:46 UTC  

But they're just waiting. All the US needs is a spark.

2019-11-26 14:21:17 UTC  

yes & i was in one for my home state. guess what? fucking antifa showed up in march of this year when regular, working-class folks were trying to protest the governor’s policies

2019-11-26 14:21:28 UTC  

dude, you really have no clue until you see it for yourself.

2019-11-26 14:22:06 UTC  

grassroots movements are fundamentally commercialized because the founders need donations & who donates money? wealthier folks. that discredits the movement

2019-11-26 14:22:09 UTC  

Antifa are just the dogs the high tier leftists send when the population starts to think different

2019-11-26 14:22:14 UTC  

yes

2019-11-26 14:22:32 UTC  

it’s infuriating. absolutely *no one* should intimidated by those goons

2019-11-26 14:23:26 UTC  

Why would the founders need donations?

2019-11-26 14:23:33 UTC  

But some goons are enough to scare away people who are starting to rise. Some farmers Demo will probably don't do it again after antifa came along cause they don't wanna fight

2019-11-26 14:23:43 UTC  

Depends on what the group is attempting to do

2019-11-26 14:23:52 UTC  

Or workers

2019-11-26 14:23:58 UTC  

Or students

2019-11-26 14:24:04 UTC  

You get what I mean

2019-11-26 14:24:33 UTC  

how do you suppose working-class people will mobilize everyone? donate 2% of their paychecks? i’ve seen this with my own eyes dude. that’s the reason i’m so militant. my group had a donation pool & guess what? it only ever amounted to just under $200. lmao

2019-11-26 14:24:44 UTC  

the youth will lead the next movement