They don't listen, and for good reason

Because those arguments are so useless in the big picture

I don’t agree with that last line

Even if the AR is right, which in some ways they are, they're not getting anywhere.

But yeah there isn’t a cohesive value structure

And the fact that the AR doesn't evolve out of (or away from) the JQ and the reverse racism arguments is actually quite tragic, because so much potential is lost

https://youtu.be/hQrU92590dM

Well other than a cohesive/homogeneous Nation State

Well what would you have us do? @ETBrooD

JF is a sophist and Andy is a bitch who knows little about anything

Why should I listen to those fools

How is JF a "sophist" lmao

He lied, and PV proved it

The guy who's video you just linked

Earlier

That was largely a case of misunderstanding

No it wasn't, because JF responded to PV's debunking

And he still didn't make sense

PV?

People's Veot

Veto* ffs

Lol

ok boomer

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Lmao

I would listen to Styx I guess, but he's not very advanced in his arguments either
We need solutions

It's time we start thinking big and ahead

Rules for radicals was a good start
The information war is a good start

It's time that we find a way to improve on that

Well I’m not well read on any of those

Give me a thesis or TL;DR if you don’t mind?

In the simplest way, rules for radicals is a rulebook for the powerless

How to overcome the established power

E.g. holding the opposition to their own standards, instead of your standards

Ah ok

That makes sense, I’ll keep that in mind

I’ll come back with more ideas if I have them, but atm I’m out of it tbh

I’ll still read but I’m taking a back seat

Don't worry, people have been building ideas for years, it takes time and a lot of effort from many people

We have come far, it's just we've been stuck for a while