Message from @macka

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2019-11-03 15:53:00 UTC  

must have stung his ego

2019-11-03 15:53:20 UTC  

indeed

2019-11-03 15:54:00 UTC  

the reason they say that, though, if it's not out of self-interest, is cuz you don't wanna be emotional and defensive. You need cooler heads who are objective to prevent you from saying stupid shit

2019-11-03 15:54:19 UTC  

Question: Is it okay to be white?

2019-11-03 15:54:27 UTC  

oh definately

2019-11-03 15:54:59 UTC  

No, macka. It isn't. You should feel ashamed. Kill yourself. <:DrinkBleach:590859953225334794>

2019-11-03 15:55:38 UTC  

just the rules of evidence alone or some point of procedure can easily cost you a case say nothing for the emotional and bias element

2019-11-03 15:55:56 UTC  

yep

2019-11-03 15:56:20 UTC  

But take consolation in the fact that the law is a precise endeavor and those rules all serve a useful purpose

2019-11-03 15:57:08 UTC  

i only used the tactic because i was pressed for cash at the time, i knew he was going to prison soon and i wanted him to think i had nothing

2019-11-03 15:57:14 UTC  

I'll be honest, I'm not the greatest at courtroom procedure

2019-11-03 15:57:51 UTC  

One that I do know, however, is Rule 12 of the FRCP. What used to be called Demurrer

2019-11-03 15:58:03 UTC  

Very useful

2019-11-03 15:58:15 UTC  

ah, yeah that one was useful

2019-11-03 15:59:34 UTC  

the local rules were more of a pain in the ass; i think that's why he chose that area to run his scams

2019-11-03 15:59:37 UTC  

thanks @Marushia Dark i knew i'd get an intelligent answer

2019-11-03 16:00:22 UTC  

The procedures are opaque if you don't speak legalize, but judges will usually go easy on you as a pro-se litigant specifically cuz you're not trained. Honestly, in some cases, you're better off just operating the way you think the justice system OUGHT to work and let them worry about how to parse it into the rules. The only real exception to this is jurisdiction and capacity, which most people don't know about and that's where they get fucked is they presume they're supposed to be there and that the charges apply to them

2019-11-03 16:00:31 UTC  

i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different

2019-11-03 16:00:45 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/640581139479658516/Youre_welcome.gif

2019-11-03 16:01:02 UTC  

> i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different

Yep

2019-11-03 16:01:07 UTC  

that's a weird card

2019-11-03 16:01:55 UTC  

yeah, i can see lack of standing throwing people as well

2019-11-03 16:03:00 UTC  

but it was also an education; i couldn't figure out why he premptively sued me at the time but then i realized once he made it a civil case t hat looked like a breach of contract, it made counter-suing for tort almost impossible

2019-11-03 16:03:06 UTC  

Legalese exists because the law must be precise, the same way engineering jargon exists. The problem is, it sounds like English but means very different things, even with simple words you think you understand. That's where people get fucked and it's that part I try to help people grasp

2019-11-03 16:04:03 UTC  

oh that is most certainly true. i always get annoyed when people don't recognize that every utterance can and will be interpreted at least 3 ways you never considered

2019-11-03 16:04:04 UTC  

The biggest issue is one I touched on earlier - the difference between legal and lawful. Most people think that just cuz a law is on the books it applies to them

2019-11-03 16:04:25 UTC  

nope; anti-trust for example

2019-11-03 16:04:32 UTC  

And this is why the justice system doesn't seem to work the way you think it should

2019-11-03 16:04:41 UTC  

customers are NOT competitors; you don't have standing

2019-11-03 16:05:04 UTC  

well, that is part of it

2019-11-03 16:05:15 UTC  

the other part are the changes made during Obama

2019-11-03 16:05:18 UTC  

ARD

2019-11-03 16:05:24 UTC  

For me personally, I have a certain vengeance towards the traffic code, since I got fucked by them for not knowing what I was doing.

2019-11-03 16:05:44 UTC  

Or rather, I knew what I was doing, but didn't stand up for myself on what I knew

2019-11-03 16:05:59 UTC  

ARD was supposed to save the courts money by avoind expensive trials but in reality, it just opened the door to victim culture

2019-11-03 16:06:21 UTC  

3x i was given the choice to pay he 4k or goto trial; i refused to pay him

2019-11-03 16:06:31 UTC  

but the prep for the trial was MORE expensive

2019-11-03 16:06:40 UTC  

I enjoy legal dramas. One of my favorite lines comes from the show "Fairly Legal," which says: "We go to court because we can't solve our own problems."

2019-11-03 16:06:49 UTC  

even though the case was thrown out the day before

2019-11-03 16:07:03 UTC  

SO true