Message from @ManAnimal
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thanks @Marushia Dark i knew i'd get an intelligent answer
The procedures are opaque if you don't speak legalize, but judges will usually go easy on you as a pro-se litigant specifically cuz you're not trained. Honestly, in some cases, you're better off just operating the way you think the justice system OUGHT to work and let them worry about how to parse it into the rules. The only real exception to this is jurisdiction and capacity, which most people don't know about and that's where they get fucked is they presume they're supposed to be there and that the charges apply to them
i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different
> i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different
Yep
that's a weird card
yeah, i can see lack of standing throwing people as well
but it was also an education; i couldn't figure out why he premptively sued me at the time but then i realized once he made it a civil case t hat looked like a breach of contract, it made counter-suing for tort almost impossible
Legalese exists because the law must be precise, the same way engineering jargon exists. The problem is, it sounds like English but means very different things, even with simple words you think you understand. That's where people get fucked and it's that part I try to help people grasp
oh that is most certainly true. i always get annoyed when people don't recognize that every utterance can and will be interpreted at least 3 ways you never considered
The biggest issue is one I touched on earlier - the difference between legal and lawful. Most people think that just cuz a law is on the books it applies to them
nope; anti-trust for example
And this is why the justice system doesn't seem to work the way you think it should
customers are NOT competitors; you don't have standing
well, that is part of it
the other part are the changes made during Obama
ARD
For me personally, I have a certain vengeance towards the traffic code, since I got fucked by them for not knowing what I was doing.
Or rather, I knew what I was doing, but didn't stand up for myself on what I knew
ARD was supposed to save the courts money by avoind expensive trials but in reality, it just opened the door to victim culture
3x i was given the choice to pay he 4k or goto trial; i refused to pay him
but the prep for the trial was MORE expensive
I enjoy legal dramas. One of my favorite lines comes from the show "Fairly Legal," which says: "We go to court because we can't solve our own problems."
even though the case was thrown out the day before
SO true
If people were better at dispute resolution, there'd hardly be a need for police, lawyers, and judges
that has always been my personal philosophy; the lawyer is only needed when people aren't willing to work on resolving a problem
there's a book I was reading a while ago
that was talking about the natural progression of things like legal systems
like how many stories have you heard of cops getting called into a school over something the teacher or the principal should have struck down?
yup
teachers used to be an extention of the parent's authority
they were elders in the same community
and the teacher was almost always right no matter how 'unfair'
That in small societies, things like property rights were defended by you and your kin, but as things like blood feuds spun out of control and society grew
now, the kid is almost always right
There's a meme to that effect, which shows parents called into a school before a teacher. In the first image, the teacher looks snobbish and the child guilty, in the latter, it's the reverse, showing how things used to be versus how they are now
it was decided that disputes should be settled by those not involved in the situation