Message from @Marushia Dark
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he is in prison at least; small concilation
i was able to beat him pro-se though in civil court; he had to appeal it which is what i expected; i just wanted him to show his hand beforehand
boy, was his attorney sore. Those that argue pro-se have a fool for a client and to be an ACTUAL attorney and get beaten by some fool...
must have stung his ego
indeed
the reason they say that, though, if it's not out of self-interest, is cuz you don't wanna be emotional and defensive. You need cooler heads who are objective to prevent you from saying stupid shit
Question: Is it okay to be white?
oh definately
No, macka. It isn't. You should feel ashamed. Kill yourself. <:DrinkBleach:590859953225334794>
just the rules of evidence alone or some point of procedure can easily cost you a case say nothing for the emotional and bias element
yep
But take consolation in the fact that the law is a precise endeavor and those rules all serve a useful purpose
i only used the tactic because i was pressed for cash at the time, i knew he was going to prison soon and i wanted him to think i had nothing
I'll be honest, I'm not the greatest at courtroom procedure
One that I do know, however, is Rule 12 of the FRCP. What used to be called Demurrer
Very useful
ah, yeah that one was useful
the local rules were more of a pain in the ass; i think that's why he chose that area to run his scams
thanks @Marushia Dark i knew i'd get an intelligent answer
The procedures are opaque if you don't speak legalize, but judges will usually go easy on you as a pro-se litigant specifically cuz you're not trained. Honestly, in some cases, you're better off just operating the way you think the justice system OUGHT to work and let them worry about how to parse it into the rules. The only real exception to this is jurisdiction and capacity, which most people don't know about and that's where they get fucked is they presume they're supposed to be there and that the charges apply to them
i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different
> i was appauled that courts in the same state, even adjacent counties could be so radically different
Yep
that's a weird card
yeah, i can see lack of standing throwing people as well
but it was also an education; i couldn't figure out why he premptively sued me at the time but then i realized once he made it a civil case t hat looked like a breach of contract, it made counter-suing for tort almost impossible
Legalese exists because the law must be precise, the same way engineering jargon exists. The problem is, it sounds like English but means very different things, even with simple words you think you understand. That's where people get fucked and it's that part I try to help people grasp
oh that is most certainly true. i always get annoyed when people don't recognize that every utterance can and will be interpreted at least 3 ways you never considered
The biggest issue is one I touched on earlier - the difference between legal and lawful. Most people think that just cuz a law is on the books it applies to them
nope; anti-trust for example
And this is why the justice system doesn't seem to work the way you think it should
customers are NOT competitors; you don't have standing
well, that is part of it
the other part are the changes made during Obama
ARD
For me personally, I have a certain vengeance towards the traffic code, since I got fucked by them for not knowing what I was doing.
Or rather, I knew what I was doing, but didn't stand up for myself on what I knew
ARD was supposed to save the courts money by avoind expensive trials but in reality, it just opened the door to victim culture
3x i was given the choice to pay he 4k or goto trial; i refused to pay him