Message from @Snake

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2019-10-24 11:32:55 UTC  

He addresses this point in detail at 13:00 onwards in the response video

2019-10-24 11:33:11 UTC  

Watch at 2x

2019-10-24 11:36:56 UTC  

18:59 JF addresses his problem with Psychology regarding predictability

2019-10-24 12:00:48 UTC  

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2019-10-24 12:01:09 UTC  

JF's main attack on IQ just boils down to this

2019-10-24 12:10:58 UTC  

In other news

2019-10-24 12:11:11 UTC  

Royal Society entire catalog of scientific journals open access until Oct 27

2019-10-24 12:27:04 UTC  

I'll be astonished if JF can convince me in his response

2019-10-24 12:27:07 UTC  

Lets see

2019-10-24 12:31:46 UTC  

Yeah doesn't convince me one bit

2019-10-24 12:32:10 UTC  

He just does some strange rhetoric, doesn't address AH's criticism directly

2019-10-24 12:32:24 UTC  

Deflection, like a politician

2019-10-24 12:35:45 UTC  

He claims predictability in psychology doesn't exist because there's never a 1:1 replicability

2019-10-24 12:36:22 UTC  

This is absolutely wrong, there are in fact many 1:1 predictins when STDev is taken into account

2019-10-24 12:36:36 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine well IQ is one of the biggest predictors if success in life

2019-10-24 12:36:46 UTC  

It's THE number one predictor

2019-10-24 12:36:53 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 12:37:20 UTC  

I mean yeah you can question it sure, I’m sure there is some debate over it

2019-10-24 12:37:39 UTC  

But for a layman like me I just assume it is pretty important

2019-10-24 12:42:39 UTC  

actually, no. the #1 is family background.
IQ is simply #1 of psychological traits

2019-10-24 12:46:09 UTC  

No, it's still IQ

2019-10-24 12:47:21 UTC  

I'm trying to find the source for this

2019-10-24 12:48:50 UTC  

That being said, the growth mindset may actually outperform even IQ
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/what-is-the-best-predictor-of-success/

2019-10-24 12:48:56 UTC  

But that is yet to be proven

2019-10-24 12:49:25 UTC  

k, so i stand corrected.

2019-10-24 12:50:44 UTC  

but i would think that the "growth mindset" is Trait: Conscientiousness: Industriousness ... which *does* lag behind IQ

2019-10-24 12:51:16 UTC  

at least as i understand it

2019-10-24 12:51:33 UTC  

Maybe yeah

2019-10-24 12:51:48 UTC  
2019-10-24 12:52:22 UTC  

So it's not "IQ = success" and it's also not "low IQ = bad chances"

2019-10-24 12:52:33 UTC  

And it's also not "high IQ = good chances"

2019-10-24 12:52:43 UTC  

It's just one, and the strongest, of all known variables

2019-10-24 12:52:56 UTC  

Other factors could override IQ both positively and negatively

2019-10-24 12:53:37 UTC  

But one things's for sure

2019-10-24 12:53:57 UTC  

You do not want low IQ, even though it's not gonna determine your ultimate fate, it's best to have high IQ

2019-10-24 12:54:09 UTC  

basically