Message from @ETBrooD

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2019-10-24 12:32:10 UTC  

He just does some strange rhetoric, doesn't address AH's criticism directly

2019-10-24 12:32:24 UTC  

Deflection, like a politician

2019-10-24 12:35:45 UTC  

He claims predictability in psychology doesn't exist because there's never a 1:1 replicability

2019-10-24 12:36:22 UTC  

This is absolutely wrong, there are in fact many 1:1 predictins when STDev is taken into account

2019-10-24 12:36:36 UTC  

@Monstrous Moonshine well IQ is one of the biggest predictors if success in life

2019-10-24 12:36:46 UTC  

It's THE number one predictor

2019-10-24 12:36:53 UTC  

^

2019-10-24 12:37:20 UTC  

I mean yeah you can question it sure, I’m sure there is some debate over it

2019-10-24 12:37:39 UTC  

But for a layman like me I just assume it is pretty important

2019-10-24 12:42:39 UTC  

actually, no. the #1 is family background.
IQ is simply #1 of psychological traits

2019-10-24 12:46:09 UTC  

No, it's still IQ

2019-10-24 12:47:21 UTC  

I'm trying to find the source for this

2019-10-24 12:48:50 UTC  

That being said, the growth mindset may actually outperform even IQ
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2015/10/what-is-the-best-predictor-of-success/

2019-10-24 12:48:56 UTC  

But that is yet to be proven

2019-10-24 12:49:25 UTC  

k, so i stand corrected.

2019-10-24 12:50:44 UTC  

but i would think that the "growth mindset" is Trait: Conscientiousness: Industriousness ... which *does* lag behind IQ

2019-10-24 12:51:16 UTC  

at least as i understand it

2019-10-24 12:51:33 UTC  

Maybe yeah

2019-10-24 12:51:48 UTC  
2019-10-24 12:52:22 UTC  

So it's not "IQ = success" and it's also not "low IQ = bad chances"

2019-10-24 12:52:33 UTC  

And it's also not "high IQ = good chances"

2019-10-24 12:52:43 UTC  

It's just one, and the strongest, of all known variables

2019-10-24 12:52:56 UTC  

Other factors could override IQ both positively and negatively

2019-10-24 12:53:37 UTC  

But one things's for sure

2019-10-24 12:53:57 UTC  

You do not want low IQ, even though it's not gonna determine your ultimate fate, it's best to have high IQ

2019-10-24 12:54:09 UTC  

basically

2019-10-24 13:47:23 UTC  

@Snake Yeah, that's a pretty elementary fact. What JF argues is that intelligence is more than IQ and that IQ only covers part of it. For instance, a Japanese and a Danish guy, both with IQ of 135, say, would be varied in their creativity, abstract vs geometric thinking etc.

2019-10-24 13:51:24 UTC  

IQ covers visual thinking, which includes space/geometry
It also covers abstract thinking
Same with creativity, which is simply the ability to, for example, invent the wheel, i.e. arrange information in a new and useful context

2019-10-24 13:53:36 UTC  

Basically IQ covers most if not perhaps all areas of fluid intelligence, the main limitation is the ability of researchers to create optimized IQ tests

2019-10-24 13:54:38 UTC  

One could argue that language and hearing are perhaps the most unexplored areas, and I would agree

2019-10-24 13:55:26 UTC  

Or maybe touch as well

2019-10-24 13:55:31 UTC  

Smelling

2019-10-24 13:55:50 UTC  

Most if not perhaps all IQ tests work visually

2019-10-24 13:56:53 UTC  

So it's possible that people have higher IQ than estimated because the other senses aren't explored in IQ testing

2019-10-24 15:43:08 UTC  

So. Things we should try hard to get to happen:

Make Both Mei from Overwatch a massive symbol of the Hong Kong Resistance, as well as Micky Mouse to take that Disney money away.

Make the ADL logo a white supremicist/alt right symbol and Meme.

2019-10-24 15:46:30 UTC  

ADoLf
Coincidence? I think not <:thunk:462282216467333140>

2019-10-24 15:47:33 UTC  

Exactly! We need to get this to happen!

2019-10-24 15:48:21 UTC  

Make it a meme, make it go viral, make it go mainstream.

And then.

We watch the ADL have to twist themselves into knots, and either shoot themselves in the foot and destroy there arguments for everything they've done in the last several years, or get stuck having to change there logo!