Most other people just see an abstract mess

This is an example of postmodern art
I think it's absolutely beautiful
https://vidalcuglietta.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/postmodern-painting-best-of-post-modern-art-of-postmodern-painting.jpg

Looks more like impressionism to me

Well it has many postmodern elements

Post modern art to me is that stack of yellow painted steel bars in front of a corporate office meant to convey a sense of wonder but which in reality everyone just calls "the French fries"

Or like I said earlier about the toilet

That's an elitist view on postmodern art

Those who hold that art as the only true examples of postmodernism, whether they critique it or glorify it, are elitists in their own ways

Art snobs if you will

For different reasons, the ones because their tastes are offended by it, and the others because everything else offends them

Or bores them

Basically what I'm trying to say is this

A trend in postmodernism doesn't define all of postmodernism

Many postmodernists themselves admit that their peers went too far

This happened in all areas, the visual arts, the music, literature

I can't stand certain types of postmodern music, but there are other pieces that I enjoy on occasion

I would never claim that I'm right because my taste is right

And neither should those on the fringes do that

There's one thing though that I think is almost universally true and should be respected

There's a point where certain art becomes so unbearable to so many people that I think it's indefensible to force it into their everyday lives

For example, I believe children shouldn't be exposed to the fringes of atonal music

At least not in any way regularly

And certainly not without them having a say in it

The same thing goes for period blood art, etc.

Postmodern music? Would that be like the "winds" sound from 2001 a space odyssey

Or like

That guy who wrote a piano solo which is just 5 minutes of total silence

Can you link me to those wind sounds?

It's the freaky vocals whenever they discover one of the monoliths

I'm on my phone so it might take a minute to find

This?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypEaGQb6dJk

Starts around 2:30

5:20 are the wind sounds

Jesus lol

Ok yeah it's the freaky vocals from 2:30

The composer iirc was trying to evoke the wind or something using human voice

Yes that would be considered atonal music, because it lacks a structure of melody, rhytm, beat, and its harmony is very dissonant and complex

It also has other names, atonal is one of them

You have to understand I work at a company in california which is full of leftists and when I tried to find it on my phone, I opened youtube and it loaded a fox news video I watched at home last night and almost blared that out for everyone to hear

monkaS

lol