Message from @fvriovs

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2019-10-24 11:51:18 UTC  

Benefit of hindsight gives us that. For all they knew they were facing the imminent destruction of their civilisation.

2019-10-24 11:51:39 UTC  

True. Not many of their vassals switched sides

2019-10-24 11:52:02 UTC  

40% did.

2019-10-24 11:52:18 UTC  

The real deep shit is why 60% didn't.

2019-10-24 11:52:55 UTC  

Did they? I thought that only few of them joined Hannibal and he just plundered the rest when he could and remained neutral-ish when he couldn't

2019-10-24 11:53:29 UTC  

But yea, Rome was on the brink of destruction. Apparently after one massive defeat, they even resorted to human sacrifices.

2019-10-24 11:53:35 UTC  

*After the death or imprisonment of 130,000 Roman troops in two years, 40% of Rome's Italian allies defected to Carthage, giving it control over most of southern Italy.*

2019-10-24 11:53:50 UTC  

wew

2019-10-24 11:53:53 UTC  

Three massive defeats actually. But Cannae was the worst.

2019-10-24 11:54:06 UTC  

Trebia, Trasimene, and then Cannae.

2019-10-24 11:54:25 UTC  

And yes.

2019-10-24 11:54:37 UTC  

Eventually they resorted to human sacrifice

2019-10-24 11:54:54 UTC  

Which they really didn't usually or even unusually do

2019-10-24 11:55:05 UTC  

This was end of the world as we know it type shit

2019-10-24 11:56:40 UTC  

Impressive shit

2019-10-24 11:56:47 UTC  

Man I love ancient Rome

2019-10-24 12:01:14 UTC  

um, battle of cannae was a shitshow

2019-10-24 12:01:26 UTC  

For the Romans, yeah

2019-10-24 12:01:44 UTC  

no i mean, in general... and not even just the battle itself... after the battle was most of a shitshow

2019-10-24 12:01:50 UTC  

I'm impressed by the fact Rome won the war, let alone survived

2019-10-24 12:02:15 UTC  

Idk what you mean, it was a pretty well ordered affair on the Carthaginian side

2019-10-24 12:02:15 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/636897237800189953/IMG_20191024_134711.jpg

2019-10-24 12:02:18 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/636897245463183372/IMG_20191024_134709.jpg

2019-10-24 12:02:20 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/636897256922152970/IMG_20191024_134553.jpg

2019-10-24 12:02:28 UTC  

jk

2019-10-24 12:02:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633967804483371009/636897312907460627/IMG_20191024_134707.jpg

2019-10-24 12:02:54 UTC  

like.. you know they took where between 1,000 and 20,000 prisoners right?

2019-10-24 12:03:03 UTC  

did you ever hear about what happened to those prisoners?

2019-10-24 12:03:16 UTC  

Probably killed.

2019-10-24 12:03:30 UTC  

Hannibal had no active supply line.

2019-10-24 12:04:05 UTC  

used to clean up the battlefield to drag bodies to fire cistern... once all the bodies burned... they where thrown onto the cistern aswell

2019-10-24 12:04:06 UTC  

He only received one shipment I think

2019-10-24 12:04:07 UTC  
2019-10-24 12:04:14 UTC  

@ryvergate That's too wholesome for this server

2019-10-24 12:05:28 UTC  

If you meant shitshow by brutality, then yeah

2019-10-24 12:05:50 UTC  

Cannae is considered a near-flawless representation of a battle of annihilation

2019-10-24 12:06:24 UTC  

Most battles in history did not end with one side wiped out

2019-10-24 12:06:37 UTC  

yes, tho it when opposite what hannible wanted... and ended up gaining the same objectives

2019-10-24 12:07:03 UTC  

Wdym? Hannibal wanted to win.

2019-10-24 12:07:17 UTC  

His entire battle plan was geared towards the outcome.

2019-10-24 12:07:29 UTC  

he didnt want to annihilate them, cuz he feared it would alienate the romans and roman allies from joining his side... but then he did annihlate them... and it did alienate them... so much that they wanted to switch side