Message from @Uksio

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2019-10-20 06:37:46 UTC  

Wasn't auto-boxes already there in 85 in american cars?

2019-10-20 06:38:02 UTC  

I don't want automatic

2019-10-20 06:38:12 UTC  

Also it was a sequential automatic

2019-10-20 06:38:20 UTC  

>automatic

2019-10-20 06:38:22 UTC  

yikes

2019-10-20 06:38:23 UTC  

Better than hydraulic, but not by much

2019-10-20 06:38:26 UTC  

Why tf would they innovate on a mechanical gearbox anyway? Leave it as it is

2019-10-20 06:38:39 UTC  

Good ol' stick shifts were good.

2019-10-20 06:38:42 UTC  

Modern DSG, now that's an automatic I can stand behind

2019-10-20 06:39:12 UTC  

yep

2019-10-20 06:39:23 UTC  

Well... 190E and all that group was a homologation car for a Merc 190Evo rally version

2019-10-20 06:39:36 UTC  

I thought the Japs were the carmakers to go for stick shifts.

2019-10-20 06:39:37 UTC  

It had to shave every little bit of weight they could

2019-10-20 06:39:56 UTC  

And dog-leg gearbox is smaller, with fewer parts, and thus lighter

2019-10-20 06:40:13 UTC  

While also being very reliable and just as sturdy as normal gearbox

2019-10-20 06:40:35 UTC  

It also had handbrake as a pedal, btw

2019-10-20 06:40:56 UTC  

E-brake as a pedal, hmm

2019-10-20 06:41:17 UTC  

Rather prefer a toyota transmission to that imo

2019-10-20 06:42:27 UTC  

Super cliche but love me some Nippon reliability

2019-10-20 06:42:55 UTC  

To this day the FJ40 shits on any G-Wagen, Defender or Wrangler ever built.

2019-10-20 06:43:18 UTC  

Not an e-brake

2019-10-20 06:43:43 UTC  

Same cable-activated parking brake, just made as a 4th pedal

2019-10-20 06:43:49 UTC  

Ohh

2019-10-20 06:44:11 UTC  

Mercedes kinda like the Apple of the car industry... or is Apple the Mercedes of tech?

2019-10-20 06:44:13 UTC  

It would also conveniently automatically disengage if you pressed the normal brakes

2019-10-20 06:44:24 UTC  

So you could never drive with parking break on

2019-10-20 06:44:42 UTC  

Ohh

2019-10-20 06:45:07 UTC  

Can't find the photo of the pedals, this is the next best thing

2019-10-20 06:45:32 UTC  

Looks like cheese graters with safety filled holes

2019-10-20 06:45:45 UTC  

You had it on the left most side, not very convenient to engage, so you would only bother when you have parked

2019-10-20 06:47:21 UTC  

@Edog speaking of cheese graters, seems Mercedes is indeed the Apple of the automobile industry.

2019-10-20 06:47:44 UTC  

Ehh. They aren’t that big

2019-10-20 06:48:10 UTC  

Well, >used to be reliable, innovative brands

2019-10-20 06:48:40 UTC  

>newer products are outlandishly expensive and now need shitloads of accesories to make their products run effectively

2019-10-20 06:48:53 UTC  

The idea was that in a rally car they would have an actual e-brake handle actuated by the driver, locking the wheels in a smart way (a version of ABS) and a car would still have an actual purpose-made parking brake too

2019-10-20 06:49:07 UTC  

Not as stupid when you know the details

2019-10-20 06:49:35 UTC  

>spare parts are getting harder to get for you to maintain the product yourself, and you're forced to rush to the dealer

2019-10-20 06:50:24 UTC  

>repairs it for ridiculous pricing that you might just as well get a new product instead

2019-10-20 06:51:22 UTC  

>unlike previous years, outright showing off they ripped off ideas from smaller brands

2019-10-20 06:52:42 UTC  

lol, indeed