Message from @ManAnimal
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It is a sweet bluepill of stability and prosperity that they're offering to these countries, and they are taking it.
Kinda funny that commies would do usury
Kinda big oof
And it is working like they intended to, jobs created, rail lines built and stuff. But all these public investment will bite back one day, the question is when it is the time to collect the debts.
@ashzeppelin that is actually what the WTO has done in the region for decades
china is actually building infrastructure in africa
Honestly, Sargon's cadence is one of the reasons why I enjoy listening to him.
They are
Soothing in a way. XD
China has done more to Africa's development in a way
if i were to decide between the WTO and china living in africa, i'd choose china tbh
they are offering a better deal
i mean, america is europe's europe
Can't discredit the Chinese for what they've done here.
nor can i
@ManAnimal what do you think would have happened if modern day China had done this in the Middle East if the US was not involved.
well, it would depend if the original power structures in the middle east were left intact
dictators are really the only people that keep them from killing each other
Yeah I mean, let them rule, but we will develop all your stuff and shit, economic investment and all that crap
Dictators are needed in places where individuals can't respect each-other
rather than the West kicking over all the ant hills
@ManAnimal seems like a better world
peace at the end of a gun isn't a world i would call 'better'
just more peaceful
USA is so individualist exactly because they were left to their own devices (or, rather their own guns) and **learned** to respect each-other's individuality
@ashzeppelin Western corporations have done what china is doing all the time
The difference is china hasn't experienced what happens when the native country decides to seize foreign investment properties
USA had its growing pains on their journey to 1st and 2nd amendments
I mean I would rather live in Saddam's Iraq than modern day Iraq
they MUST be allowed to burn each other out until exhaustion before the people will accept a peaceful form of governance
yup
That's the point, hammered home right there
if you intervene, break up the fight, the losers will always continue to beleive that the oNLY reason they lost was the winner had a big brother
As long as they are allowed to segregate and dehumanise other segregate groups there will be wars
as soon as that big brother isn't around, the fighting resumes
you cannot BE there all the time
But let em decide on their own