Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-10-27 19:36:53 UTC  

I am gayn't

2019-10-27 19:36:58 UTC  

Rocket engineering is not simple

2019-10-27 19:37:10 UTC  

aero-spike program attempted to design a varaible nozzle

2019-10-27 19:37:22 UTC  

aero-spike wasnt that great in the end tho

2019-10-27 19:37:25 UTC  

limited success

2019-10-27 19:37:30 UTC  

again

2019-10-27 19:37:31 UTC  

They actually did

2019-10-27 19:37:37 UTC  

is the efficiency for different pressure levels

2019-10-27 19:37:42 UTC  

just a nozzle configuration issue?

2019-10-27 19:37:52 UTC  

It was just too expensive because it needed fancy and expensive new materials

2019-10-27 19:38:02 UTC  

Hrmm.. debating on which game to play on the flight.. KSP is calling me again...

2019-10-27 19:38:07 UTC  

mainly; but the shape of the nozzle effects the fuel deliver method

2019-10-27 19:38:16 UTC  

@Laucivol wait for the sequel

2019-10-27 19:38:27 UTC  

if you go back into KSP, you'll get bored from having nothing to do... again

2019-10-27 19:38:28 UTC  

Exactly what I was sayin'..

2019-10-27 19:38:42 UTC  

Except I enjoy the rocketry of it..

2019-10-27 19:38:55 UTC  

And setting up refueling rings..

2019-10-27 19:39:08 UTC  

And getting to the Mars-analog.

2019-10-27 19:39:33 UTC  

The benefit of this wedgy boi nozzle was that it had much easier time being cooled

2019-10-27 19:39:50 UTC  

PV = nRT

2019-10-27 19:40:01 UTC  

Classic

2019-10-27 19:40:06 UTC  

Also because of venturi effect it could be thrust-vectored without any moving parts

2019-10-27 19:40:23 UTC  

Musk said aerospike wasn't effective in the end

2019-10-27 19:40:28 UTC  

yup, that was another added benefit

2019-10-27 19:40:33 UTC  

It had issues, yes

2019-10-27 19:40:46 UTC  

It is more fuel-hungry compared to normal engine

2019-10-27 19:40:55 UTC  

```“So you have your combustion efficiency and what percentage of max theoretical combustion you are and then what your nozzle efficiency is, which is really are you straightening the flow, shooting the molecules out in a straight line, so you go into the other direction.

“With a traditional combustion chamber, you can get to very high combustion efficiency, cause the molecules are bouncing around have got time to combine and do their thing.

“Then when you sort of choke it through the throat, it gives them more opportunity to combine.”```

2019-10-27 19:40:56 UTC  

aerospike could get a craft to orbit but not cost effectively

2019-10-27 19:41:07 UTC  

apparently

2019-10-27 19:41:14 UTC  

aerospike has low combustion efficiency

2019-10-27 19:41:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/638099943990755331/D6ubDDPXsAAy4m5.png

2019-10-27 19:41:33 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/633966934622208031/638099986986303528/qdi5rvim3c931.png

2019-10-27 19:41:36 UTC  

well, it's a trade-off; efficency at what pressure?

2019-10-27 19:42:04 UTC  

@Coolitic it could have been solved with pre-combustion chambers, but the project was axed before they could try that

2019-10-27 19:42:29 UTC  

you can optimize seperate nozzles for different stages of ascent but a single nozzle will always be less efficient over the entire range

2019-10-27 19:43:01 UTC  

Unless it is a flexy nozzle like they make them on the planes

2019-10-27 19:43:02 UTC  

maybe aerospike will be more useful for very light payloads?

2019-10-27 19:43:15 UTC  

yeah, that's what skylon is working on

2019-10-27 19:43:18 UTC  

A nozzle that can do the anal reflex