*Thanks* to the EU.

IE. levels of wealth are increasing across Europe..

That's why you preserve States' rights, just as we did in the United States, though I suggest a careful study of how they've been eroded, to ensure the same mistakes aren't made in the EU as have been in the US.

That just means it’s taking wealth from one area and placing it into others

And Greece, Italy, Spain is in a shit ton of debt

Britain France and Germany pay most of the bill

You allow some autonomy for each individual states, but the federal government dictates foreign policy, domestic policy, monetary, etc

Basically as Jeremy has said

So? @Snake

Good luck

Perhaps in the eyes of economic nationalists, but laissez-faire trade has long since been mathematically proven as better than mercantile systems.

A price worth paying for a unified, wealthy Europe?

I don’t see it working but I’ll accept that I can be wrong

It's currently working out.

Idk

I don’t see it working out

Even right now

It’s a noble goal

Europe is more prosperous than ever?

weez wants golden chains

There is an alternative perspective to view the matter, Snake.

Rather than State competition, you have competition on the level of individuals.

Because it can it can focus its economy on butter not guns

Lucky us.

We can expand it.

And then in the future, change the focus.

Towards military spending if we so choose.

Thus, the fundamental differences in objective and desires.

But at the moment it's in our best interest to unify Europe and make it wealthy.

You have Europeans in favor of State competition, who see the State as the pinnacle of their lives.

Then, you have Europeans who desire individualism.

wealth unless your on the Mediterranean

Things which can obviously improve.

And has actually been improving for the majority of Europeans.

Correct, Weez.

This was the realization of the US centuries ago, in seeking to ratify the US Constitution.

In Jeremys example, obviously not everyone is the same, but the majority is significantly better than they were.

Which is what matters.

Well when I mean state action here’s the thing; there is always going to be a desire for a independent nation state. I think we can look at Yugoslavia, Croatia wanted its own state. Some of those individually minded people might think the EU is more like a super state consolidating power

Nationalism is what I mean

Finding the balance between federalization and states-rights is what's important