Message from @Cato the Young-ish
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we joined the common market
It's a totalitarian state in the making
We could have veto'd the agreements which were put through
and were pulled into the EU by association
Hahahahhaa
It's the bloody Nazis again !!!111
We agreed to the creation of the EU.
Not even the good form of Totalitarianism
By voting in parties which supported it
And didn't stop its growth
We allowed that to happen
You're a libertarian you should hate totalitarianism
At ANY point we could have used our veto power
And stopped it
That was a mistake on out part
But we didn't.
and now we are
@Weez when? nope. John Major stopped a referendum of the mastrich treaty
so what's your point
@Lêohte I do to an extent but like i said before my ideology is a process of Double Think
@Mr. Jesus Through every single agreement / law which the EU has made. We could have refused / veto'd any of those.
So you're a walking hypocrite?
Well now we've voted to leave, after years of being promised a vote and not being given one, so let's leave
Through our elected government.
The people WE vote in.
The ones WITH that power.
But we voted in parties which supported the EU.
@Lêohte I hold two opposing beliefs as equal
Hence WE allowed it to grow.
Weez, you overestimate the power those have.
Suppose Russia's democracy is solid too eh?
and now WE are telling it to get fucked
I accept most of that Weez, but now we want to get the fuck out of it, and there are legitimate reasons for doing so
@Weez no we didn't. Margaret Thatcher was kicked out after she started speaking up against the EU and they put in the puppet that was Major instead. Please learn some history.
Everyone was fed up of a conservative government after like over a decade and that is why blair got in.
What you are putting forward is such a twisted interpretation of what has happened.
Just because we allowed it to grow before does not mean we should continue allowing it to grow
We have a veto ability. We didn't use it. We weren't forced to sign anything, our elected officials chose to agree and sign all of it into power.
And what when the people want toe Government to veto something and they don't
@Weez Presenting it as we voted for the EU is disingenuous and is fundamentally dishonest.
Who forced us to sign EU laws into power? @Mr. Jesus