It's a simple question, were we forced to do those things against our will?

So what would stop them from just agreeing despite the public opposition to give away our Veto power

When were WE asked?

Did we have an alternative option in those events?

At general elections @Lêohte

And in the previous referendums.

@Weez We never had a choice. As I said we weren't allowed a referendum and EU matters weren't in the public's mind.

Yes we had an option to exactly dictate treaties, ofcourse

@Weez It is a dishonest loaded question and you know it.

Hes a jew

We just need to destroy the EU and try again

Dont bother

Ok now to race

"EU matters weren't in the public's mind." @Mr. Jesus You don't think about policies before voting in your party?

When were we asked if we'd like to be flooded with racial aliens?

Set up a new EU based one different principles

Maybe one based on Nationalistic Libertarianism

@Weez The EU wasn't as it was today back in the late 80s and 90s

It's not dishonest, nor loaded.

Weez the parties don't follow the policies, haven't for decades!

how young are you Weez?

for decades they have ignored manifestos as soon as they were elected

what we vote for is never implimented

@Weez yes it was as you ignored everything I said before on the matter

for d e c a d e s

Again, what forced us to agree or to sign any of this?

nm, was worth a try. Have a good evening chaps

@Weez Why won't you honestly engage?

The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic. First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid. If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about. Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again. But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying.

Gradually I began to hate them.

I am, you're failing to answer a simple question.

@Mr. Jesus Read this

Well if leaders lied, then that in effect is forcing the people to agree

The leaders we voted into power represent us. They signed those agreements.

Thus, we signed up for them.

The leaders are not the people

@Weez No you are not. I told you why the public hasn't had a choice. A general election isn't a direct vote for the EU laws politicians signed us up to. So the question you are asking is working off a faulty premise which I have answered many times.

Not if they were dishonest about their stance on the EU

The public always has a choice. Vote for someone else.

Our Leaders can agree to something despite the public opposing it

He is blocked now

What if out leaders lie