Message from @The Electric Lizard

Discord ID: 625099201214152725


2019-09-21 22:38:01 UTC  

Freedom is an illusion, a warm blanket to make you think you're safe

2019-09-21 22:38:20 UTC  

Free Will is an illusion

2019-09-21 22:38:27 UTC  

It only grants partial freedom

2019-09-21 22:38:32 UTC  

Safe from the catholic priest with his bottle of lube

2019-09-21 22:38:34 UTC  

Then so is freedom in general

2019-09-21 22:38:45 UTC  

We can be Free from Governments

2019-09-21 22:38:51 UTC  

No we can't

2019-09-21 22:38:54 UTC  

Which will allow us to be more free

2019-09-21 22:39:00 UTC  

Not completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:04 UTC  

But freer

2019-09-21 22:39:14 UTC  

Exactly not completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:19 UTC  

So you're never free

2019-09-21 22:39:31 UTC  

Thus freedom is an illusion

2019-09-21 22:39:33 UTC  

We can never be completely free

2019-09-21 22:39:56 UTC  

Due to the illusion of Free will like i said before but we can be free from governments

2019-09-21 22:40:12 UTC  

One is achievable the other isn't

2019-09-21 22:40:13 UTC  

free will exists in the same way freedom does

2019-09-21 22:40:21 UTC  

So we should still seek to achieve one

2019-09-21 22:40:21 UTC  

Ahahah you're in a bit of a loop there lizard

2019-09-21 22:40:44 UTC  

You said we can be free of government when you said we can't

2019-09-21 22:41:03 UTC  

We can never be completely free however this shouldn't stop us from trying to increase our freedom through reductions in Government

2019-09-21 22:41:11 UTC  

We can be free from governments

2019-09-21 22:41:31 UTC  

I referred to Free Will being an illusion that we can't get rid of

2019-09-21 22:41:40 UTC  

Can we be free from infringements by our fellow man at the same time?

2019-09-21 22:41:43 UTC  

I'd say governments actually give us more freedom

2019-09-21 22:41:47 UTC  

How?

2019-09-21 22:41:55 UTC  

They just restrict things

2019-09-21 22:42:03 UTC  

emergency services for one

2019-09-21 22:42:21 UTC  

Less Government = More Freedom

2019-09-21 22:42:24 UTC  

and vice verse

2019-09-21 22:42:26 UTC  

Well in your system id have to pay for uni myself however in the current system government pays for me to go to uni this making me freer

2019-09-21 22:42:47 UTC  

That it not freedom it is reliance

2019-09-21 22:42:52 UTC  

In your system id have to pay for health care but in this system I don't

2019-09-21 22:43:12 UTC  

I'm still freer

2019-09-21 22:43:26 UTC  

As in your system I'm reliant on cash

2019-09-21 22:43:30 UTC  

You are forcing the Doctor to help you without pay and the Uni to accept you without pay

2019-09-21 22:43:35 UTC  

That is not freedom

2019-09-21 22:43:48 UTC  

That is just servitude to the State

2019-09-21 22:43:55 UTC  

both those things get paid

2019-09-21 22:43:55 UTC  

For the businesses at least

2019-09-21 22:43:58 UTC  

By the State