Message from @Snake

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2019-09-30 16:23:36 UTC  

And so the personality that emerges, how the organization, or family, or tribe, interacts, sees, articulates, thinks of itself, is dictated by certain patterns that can be studied either as a result of the individual personalities, or simply of the whole thing

2019-09-30 16:24:21 UTC  

So if you over a hundred years have different people realizing that monogamous relationships usually mean most men get a woman, meaning most men are satisfied enough to cause less issues, well maybe the meta personality realizes it's a good idea to have monogamous relationships as an ideal for young men and women to aspire to

2019-09-30 16:24:48 UTC  

And so it becomes the way individual personalities, like say you, or me, when growing up, are preprogrammed to act in accordance to the previously established pathways

2019-09-30 16:25:09 UTC  

Interesting, it’s like Carl Jungs collective consciences in some since

2019-09-30 16:25:15 UTC  

Sort of, yes

2019-09-30 16:25:35 UTC  

However Carl talked more about the past still living on in our psyche

2019-09-30 16:25:37 UTC  

The collective unconscious is more the thing in its instance rather than throughout time though

2019-09-30 16:25:53 UTC  

Well the past lives in our psyche because our psyche inhabits the meta personality

2019-09-30 16:26:12 UTC  

And everything that affects something in a continuity tends to remain until it's contradicted one too many times

2019-09-30 16:26:51 UTC  

The question is how to get individualism and collectivism working hand in hand, that’s my deal

2019-09-30 16:26:51 UTC  

Our collective unconscious, meta-personality, it knows things that we just don't because it's simply observed with higher processing power for a longer time in different scenarios

2019-09-30 16:27:05 UTC  

True, the subconscious

2019-09-30 16:27:05 UTC  

well what are you calling individualism and collectivism

2019-09-30 16:27:28 UTC  

That’s difficult, the definitions change all the time

2019-09-30 16:27:37 UTC  

Well you must've meant something when you thought it

2019-09-30 16:27:41 UTC  

Which definitions did you mean

2019-09-30 16:28:07 UTC  

I guess individualism would be the individual working for himself, and collectivism would be the collective working for itself

2019-09-30 16:28:21 UTC  

Does it not already work hand in hand?

2019-09-30 16:28:22 UTC  

How to get a individual to help the collective and himself at the same time is my question

2019-09-30 16:28:33 UTC  

I think the short answer to your question is flow

2019-09-30 16:28:59 UTC  

Top down or bottom up?

2019-09-30 16:29:04 UTC  

I don’t know

2019-09-30 16:29:14 UTC  

Well an individual can only go from himself

2019-09-30 16:29:43 UTC  

But flow still to me seems to be the answer for how an individual does both things

2019-09-30 16:29:54 UTC  

However I will say individualism has taken off to much, individuals consolidating too much power and is only concerned with “profit for the sack of profit”

2019-09-30 16:30:11 UTC  

By creating social institutions that reform and adapt the collective as a whole while also instilling conditions which allows individuals to engage in flow, you get them to work together

2019-09-30 16:30:26 UTC  

What I see now days is the disappearance of social cohesion

2019-09-30 16:30:31 UTC  

I don't think that has much to do with individualism

2019-09-30 16:30:46 UTC  

Maybe it doesn’t

2019-09-30 16:30:55 UTC  

Anything that gets the best of both

2019-09-30 16:31:08 UTC  

IT's just the result of the traditional social institutions that usually regulated these things being broken down

2019-09-30 16:31:40 UTC  

Anyway I have to go, class is starting

2019-09-30 16:31:45 UTC  

Sorry to interrupt like this

2019-09-30 16:31:51 UTC  

But it was a nice talk

2019-09-30 16:32:13 UTC  

Flow is generally a way that satisfies individuals in experience and if you construct collective activities or group-survival actions into the framework for flow, then you'll most likely have gotten the best of both worlds

2019-09-30 16:32:16 UTC  

In very basic terms

2019-09-30 16:32:19 UTC  

gay

2019-09-30 16:32:33 UTC  

Maybe I should cum everywhere on you but not your vagina >:C

2019-09-30 17:53:59 UTC  

gobal warming isnt like "normal climate change" its an real problem that can be fixed but most of the worlds leaders dont care about saving the earth only about the MONY if you're an young person you should be seriously concerned of the well being about the planet many climate change denier's don't care about this becuse they wont be alive whean to worst effect of it heappening yo always say MUH CLIMATE HAS ALWAYS CHANGED um yes but that not what we talking about its about shitty people making shit shittier its not the end of the world however its the end of society as we know it hundre of millions of pepole will die becuse they cant grow they crop becuse of toxic gas in the air and pepole like sheldon dont care about it becuse he is an sicopath or something or maby he just dosent care witch you should while we waste our time bitching about sjw trans pepole and pitty drama gobal chaos that we have never seen before is facing us and we are not papered this shouldent be an political issue everyone have something to lose its time to stop aguring about if its real becuse we arlady have proof for it being real youre acting like flat earthers we should start doing everything we can papare for it.

2019-09-30 17:54:37 UTC  

Most world leaders are actually embracing tackling climate change, but mysteriously every solution applied just gives more and more power to a growing totalitarian state that increasingly gets more centralized

2019-09-30 17:54:52 UTC  

its not becuse they care they just want more votes