nah they were doing a good

getting rid of Byzantium

"oh my god the crusades were awful fucking organized religion"
>ignores the muslims invading fucking everything beforehand

(not you by the way)

@Spooky Melon i never said that

i said god wouldn't support the crusades

oh nvm

i just mean the general "oh but the christians waged terrible war" kind of dudes

@Napoleon Lee Scott The Crusades were (at least *started out as* ) entirely morally & ethically justifiable *defensive* wars that were *legal* by that day's standards as a response to centuries of unjustified Muhammedan aggression.

he gets it

he's just saying that it technically goes against god's wishes

then *later* they went into "mission creep"

the first crusades i can get

yeah

by why like 10 of them

crusades were just hyper remove kebab

b/c the first one was so much fun?

**REMOVE KEBAB**

sacking Constantinople was a **big** oopsie tho

the whole sacking thing was a big oopsy

nah

and to be fair, who knows if the crusaders even knew what fucking language the byzantines were speaking

Kebab needed to be removed from Christian lands

yeah man just roll over and let the muzzies take over

Pilgrims needed to be protected

& the Holy Land retaken

sounds like zionism to me but ok

@Thundermark i can talk about this in VC if you want

@Kealor wat?

I still prefer the olden days however

@Napoleon Lee Scott sure, for a bit

which chat

the holy land aspect is pretty weak

dealing with the culture/power clashes is one thing

memes?

WoTW

but "i need this sandy chair in the middle of a desert becasue a thing happened there 2000 years ago" is pure spergery

**but** Christians should not be massacring fellow Christians. FFS, c'mon guys

tbh

jews were god's chosen people

so is god in this zionist plot?

<lurker mode engage>