Message from @Spooky Melon
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@Napoleon Lee Scott "god said not to kill"
He said not to *murder.* Self-defense is always justifiable.
@Napoleon Lee Scott ay B the muzzies were invading
**YOU KNOW WE HAD TO DO IT TO EM**
the Crusades were righteous self defence change my mind
nah they were doing a good
getting rid of Byzantium
"oh my god the crusades were awful fucking organized religion"
>ignores the muslims invading fucking everything beforehand
(not you by the way)
@Spooky Melon i never said that
i said god wouldn't support the crusades
oh nvm
i just mean the general "oh but the christians waged terrible war" kind of dudes
@Napoleon Lee Scott The Crusades were (at least *started out as* ) entirely morally & ethically justifiable *defensive* wars that were *legal* by that day's standards as a response to centuries of unjustified Muhammedan aggression.
he gets it
he's just saying that it technically goes against god's wishes
then *later* they went into "mission creep"
the first crusades i can get
yeah
by why like 10 of them
crusades were just hyper remove kebab
b/c the first one was so much fun?
sacking Constantinople was a **big** oopsie tho
the whole sacking thing was a big oopsy
nah
and to be fair, who knows if the crusaders even knew what fucking language the byzantines were speaking
Kebab needed to be removed from Christian lands
yeah man just roll over and let the muzzies take over
Pilgrims needed to be protected
& the Holy Land retaken
sounds like zionism to me but ok
@Thundermark i can talk about this in VC if you want
@Kealor wat?
I still prefer the olden days however
@Napoleon Lee Scott sure, for a bit
which chat
the holy land aspect is pretty weak
dealing with the culture/power clashes is one thing
memes?
WoTW
but "i need this sandy chair in the middle of a desert becasue a thing happened there 2000 years ago" is pure spergery
**but** Christians should not be massacring fellow Christians. FFS, c'mon guys