I just wanted to complain about it

Negative space? No, I'm saying competing interests, arising from individuals pursuing their own self-interest, isn't something you want to eliminate, but rather constrain within a framework of law. An example of preserving the ability to compete, let's say in a market, would be anti-trust laws to either break up a monopoly within a market or fine a group of firms colluding with one another to regulate an industry with entry-barriers and so forth, as a means of eliminating competition and maximize profits. Murder is also a given, you confine this within law.

Negative presence I’m sorry

Indeed.

Anyway what did I saw that made you say that? I just want to know the context

It's beneficial to markets, say when you have multiple firms competing to offer a higher quality product at a lower cost. As goes the same for competitive labor markets; laborers competing for higher wages by becoming more productive. I'm merely using this as an example of individuals pursuing self-interest.

You see, there's a fundamental misunderstanding by insinuating we can ever live in peace.

And any attempts at forcing it, eliminating the ability of peoples to pursue self-interest, is futile, ending with what we've observed time and again by ideologues believing they can.

To force people in harmony would require you to force each to forgo what is of interest to themselves.

I think there is also collective interest involved though too

Not in the commie way

But Nation vs Nation

And you should get them to work together

In sync

You can think of families as collectives, the child cannot pursue its own interests

And it’s not really beneficial for a parent to raise it

Now days

But people still have kids (although not as much)

Increasing women’s education reduced birth rates

And collectively when demographics implode that’s a bad thing I don’t see the market fixing

There is always a level of collective interest anywhere you go.

This is a given.

Well yeah, but I think that has more to do with women going into colleges

On a bigger rate

My trouble is how can we actually fight this. Even if we red pill people there are still thousands more being trafficked into our country that will mindlessly vote for the left

But also birth control

Immigration is a good example of collective interests fighting each other imo

But I don’t think we can at this point

Too many are let in they will not assimilate

Unless it’s violent

And thus keep to their own and vote for their own interests, and not those of Americans

I think north America and Europe are on a path of civil wars or being demographically destroyed

We are already on a route for both

Everyone can feel that

Most youtubers hint at it or say it outright

Well even on the ground, look at Oregon

Antifa vs conservatives

That kinda shit has been going on for years now

The left has gone more and more left wing

Snake, I would sway toward the side of replacing collective interest with mutual interest, but you can argue both are the one in the same, though collective insinuates a grander framework of collectivity in a sociopolitical discussion.