Message from @ubermensch

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2019-09-16 18:35:25 UTC  

I'm just saying republics *claim* this is how this shit works.

2019-09-16 18:37:05 UTC  

Republics claim they vote people in to represent them on matters of state. Leadership in turn acts on their behalf. Which you can argue sure. But overall doesn’t give ya right to terrorism. Since anyone outside a 5 year old knows that’s not cut and dry as the idea of a republic is.

2019-09-16 18:37:39 UTC  

I mean if we accept that gov *represents* the ppl

2019-09-16 18:37:46 UTC  

then it represents the ppl

2019-09-16 18:38:13 UTC  

if the ppl are indeed sovereign

2019-09-16 18:38:29 UTC  

then they surely are responsible for the military actions of their army

2019-09-16 18:38:40 UTC  

Their sovereign enough to elect people after that point it’s out of their hands.

2019-09-16 18:38:40 UTC  

at least the adults

2019-09-16 18:39:03 UTC  

you are correct, but this is not what the ideological doctrine claims

2019-09-16 18:39:46 UTC  

Sure but again doesn’t give ya the legitimacy to be a terrorist

2019-09-16 18:39:57 UTC  

republics don't claim they elect their sovereigns, they claim the ppl *are* sovreign

2019-09-16 18:40:27 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/613767975614283832/623226703732408348/447822649_344087.jpg

2019-09-16 18:40:44 UTC  

Again: I'm not saying the terrorists are doing good. I'm saying the reason why it is possible to say they are not doing good, is the fact republics are built on a lie^^

2019-09-16 18:42:25 UTC  

I don’t think it is a lie. Because republics innately operate as any government would for utility and self preservation on a macro scale. But the constitution protects our rights and aligns us as sovereign.

2019-09-16 18:42:43 UTC  

Ok, then terrorists ARE fine

2019-09-16 18:43:17 UTC  

No there not lol. Because then we can still just keep bombing them if they want to make it a zero sum game.

2019-09-16 18:43:31 UTC  

I mean you can

2019-09-16 18:43:33 UTC  

sure

2019-09-16 18:43:47 UTC  

I'm just saying they are morally allowed to retaliate

2019-09-16 18:44:00 UTC  

against the *sovereign* that is bombing them

2019-09-16 18:45:49 UTC  

Retaliate against government forces not the average citizenry.

2019-09-16 18:46:00 UTC  

you ARE the government forces

2019-09-16 18:46:06 UTC  

you as in the citizenry

2019-09-16 18:46:17 UTC  

government is UNDER you

2019-09-16 18:46:24 UTC  

it does your bidding

2019-09-16 18:46:30 UTC  

Not really

2019-09-16 18:46:33 UTC  

I know

2019-09-16 18:46:34 UTC  

Lol u think murican govt does my bidding

2019-09-16 18:46:50 UTC  

but that is what this is all built on - the idea that it does

2019-09-16 18:47:15 UTC  

if it doesn't then you are not sovereign

2019-09-16 18:47:31 UTC  

Your operating in alignment to a reality you know is not true which makes the terrorists unjust no matter how much they want to pigeon hole their activities are in the right

2019-09-16 18:47:35 UTC  

if it does, then the terrorists are in the clear

2019-09-16 18:47:49 UTC  

I am indeed

2019-09-16 18:48:02 UTC  

the false reality claimed by republican thinking^^

2019-09-16 18:48:14 UTC  

you are NOT sovereign

2019-09-16 18:48:26 UTC  

that is a bald face lie

2019-09-16 18:48:50 UTC  

not as an individual, not as a class (whatever the fuck that would mean)

2019-09-16 18:48:56 UTC  

More like them misinterpreting the thinking and taking it at its zenith conclusion that them blowing themselves up is just

2019-09-16 18:49:25 UTC  

modern republicanism is just like greek oligarchies tbh

2019-09-16 18:49:34 UTC  

How is it unjust to retaliate against someone that's bombing your house ant treats it as collateral?

2019-09-16 18:49:38 UTC  

rich families with connections end up forming dynasties