Message from @ubermensch
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I'm just saying republics *claim* this is how this shit works.
Republics claim they vote people in to represent them on matters of state. Leadership in turn acts on their behalf. Which you can argue sure. But overall doesn’t give ya right to terrorism. Since anyone outside a 5 year old knows that’s not cut and dry as the idea of a republic is.
I mean if we accept that gov *represents* the ppl
then it represents the ppl
if the ppl are indeed sovereign
then they surely are responsible for the military actions of their army
Their sovereign enough to elect people after that point it’s out of their hands.
at least the adults
you are correct, but this is not what the ideological doctrine claims
Sure but again doesn’t give ya the legitimacy to be a terrorist
republics don't claim they elect their sovereigns, they claim the ppl *are* sovreign
Again: I'm not saying the terrorists are doing good. I'm saying the reason why it is possible to say they are not doing good, is the fact republics are built on a lie^^
I don’t think it is a lie. Because republics innately operate as any government would for utility and self preservation on a macro scale. But the constitution protects our rights and aligns us as sovereign.
Ok, then terrorists ARE fine
No there not lol. Because then we can still just keep bombing them if they want to make it a zero sum game.
I mean you can
sure
I'm just saying they are morally allowed to retaliate
against the *sovereign* that is bombing them
you ARE the government forces
you as in the citizenry
government is UNDER you
it does your bidding
Not really
I know
Lol u think murican govt does my bidding
but that is what this is all built on - the idea that it does
if it doesn't then you are not sovereign
Your operating in alignment to a reality you know is not true which makes the terrorists unjust no matter how much they want to pigeon hole their activities are in the right
if it does, then the terrorists are in the clear
I am indeed
the false reality claimed by republican thinking^^
you are NOT sovereign
that is a bald face lie
not as an individual, not as a class (whatever the fuck that would mean)
More like them misinterpreting the thinking and taking it at its zenith conclusion that them blowing themselves up is just
modern republicanism is just like greek oligarchies tbh
How is it unjust to retaliate against someone that's bombing your house ant treats it as collateral?
rich families with connections end up forming dynasties