Message from @saru_richard
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Impossible
again....
I wish they could
I really do
not impossible
But I don’t think it’s possible
we did it for a LONG time
Pretty impossible, since history especially cannot be apolitical
It is the effort that matters, nothing is perfect
No, we didn’t. For a long time we all agreed on the ideology being taught.
That’s not the same as saying no ideology was being taught.
not in MY country
Ur USA, yeah?
You can achieve something approaching it on a small scale, but to scale it up to fit the American public education needs? And maintain that standard across the whole population?
No way. It's logistically impractical
USA, yes. and 'politics' is NOT 'ideology'
that's a false diacotomy
Politics is ideological in most of the population though
Rational politics is the exception, not the rule
we are a Democratic Republic. WE have elections. Any talk of candidates or who should be elected should be verboten
hence 'apolitical'
tangential
also @Scale_e, one way to counter bias is to ensure each person can recite BOTH sides of an argument as a qualification
@ManAnimal that doesn't make education apolitical, it just means it isn't biased in contemporary politics. These are two very different standards to uphold.
then i am confused as to your intent or rather you are confused at my intent when i suggest schools should be apolitical
You're just speaking too broadly
Obviously everyone agrees that schools shouldn't tell students how to vote, but there's going to be political ideas injected into the education even without that.
the intent is to insure that children aren't used as protestors or prevent the school of being used as a bully pulpit
Yeah, school-backed activism is cancer
avoiding contempoary politics acheives that end
Well not really, because history can't be taught without politically predisposing children to certain ideas.
Because history itself cannot be apolitical
again, nothing about that is contemporary
btw we should have a bot that at random post edgy jokes just so we can sniff out any journos that hang out here
you are teaching the children about the various ideas held in the past; this isn't a bad thing
you just can't apply them to present
you keep them in their historical context
@ManAnimal consider the inevitability that you will have to teach children at some point why a given political idea failed, though. That's going to create a political bias whether you want it or not.
@saru_richard or just call everyone niggers 😎
Communism failed *because* communism is a non-functional political concept. That's going to bias children against communism.
Etc etc
also, it IS possible to remove politics from school COMPLETELY and instead require a seperate forum of civics and politics such as a mandatory participation of 1 yrs hands on civics/gov after hs