Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-09-28 04:54:49 UTC  

fuck it this has gone too far

2019-09-28 04:54:52 UTC  

I'm done

2019-09-28 04:54:59 UTC  

I love niggers

2019-09-28 04:55:12 UTC  
2019-09-28 04:55:34 UTC  

*ALTERNATIVE REFORM PROPOSAL*
*1. Restrict university debt milling by instituting a maximum course load/degree. No more taking 20 elective classes for 1 course of study
2. Eliminate Affirmative Action in admissions and testing practices
3. Remove federal/state funding from colleges unless their alumni have a given successful employment rate in their fields of study
4. Remove federal/state funding from colleges found to be hosting courses that are antithetical to American social/cultural unity, or at least defund those courses
5. Initiate an investigation into political bias in hiring/tenuring practices in post-secondary education*

2019-09-28 04:56:13 UTC  

ok here is something that will set the chat on fire, is it me or is Dissenter fast becoming an echo chamber? because often all i see are different ways of saying "fuck the left" "civil war now" and "<insert women/minority here> should not have the right to vote", unless i'm looking the wrong way i really don't see many actual comment debates on Dissenter between the both sides and with each passing day it looks more and more like the echo chamber's we see in tumblr except its a right wing one

(btw please prove me wrong)

2019-09-28 04:56:18 UTC  

I’ve already partially written a manifesto (non pew pew) that covers education.
I could ctrl c ctrl v.

2019-09-28 04:56:37 UTC  

schools should be Apolitical.

2019-09-28 04:56:41 UTC  

period

2019-09-28 04:56:43 UTC  

Impossible

2019-09-28 04:56:49 UTC  

again....

2019-09-28 04:56:51 UTC  

I wish they could

2019-09-28 04:56:56 UTC  

I really do

2019-09-28 04:57:03 UTC  

not impossible

2019-09-28 04:57:07 UTC  

But I don’t think it’s possible

2019-09-28 04:57:09 UTC  

we did it for a LONG time

2019-09-28 04:57:19 UTC  

Pretty impossible, since history especially cannot be apolitical

2019-09-28 04:57:22 UTC  

It is the effort that matters, nothing is perfect

2019-09-28 04:57:45 UTC  

No, we didn’t. For a long time we all agreed on the ideology being taught.

2019-09-28 04:57:56 UTC  

That’s not the same as saying no ideology was being taught.

2019-09-28 04:58:00 UTC  

not in MY country

2019-09-28 04:58:11 UTC  

Ur USA, yeah?

2019-09-28 04:58:15 UTC  

You can achieve something approaching it on a small scale, but to scale it up to fit the American public education needs? And maintain that standard across the whole population?
No way. It's logistically impractical

2019-09-28 04:58:31 UTC  

USA, yes. and 'politics' is NOT 'ideology'

2019-09-28 04:58:41 UTC  

that's a false diacotomy

2019-09-28 04:58:58 UTC  

Politics is ideological in most of the population though

2019-09-28 04:59:12 UTC  

Rational politics is the exception, not the rule

2019-09-28 04:59:38 UTC  

we are a Democratic Republic. WE have elections. Any talk of candidates or who should be elected should be verboten

2019-09-28 04:59:55 UTC  

hence 'apolitical'

2019-09-28 05:00:18 UTC  

the USA is more pure republic than Democratic Republic

2019-09-28 05:00:29 UTC  

tangential

2019-09-28 05:01:27 UTC  

also @Scale_e, one way to counter bias is to ensure each person can recite BOTH sides of an argument as a qualification

2019-09-28 05:01:54 UTC  

@ManAnimal that doesn't make education apolitical, it just means it isn't biased in contemporary politics. These are two very different standards to uphold.

2019-09-28 05:03:01 UTC  

then i am confused as to your intent or rather you are confused at my intent when i suggest schools should be apolitical

2019-09-28 05:04:00 UTC  

You're just speaking too broadly
Obviously everyone agrees that schools shouldn't tell students how to vote, but there's going to be political ideas injected into the education even without that.

2019-09-28 05:04:03 UTC  

the intent is to insure that children aren't used as protestors or prevent the school of being used as a bully pulpit

2019-09-28 05:04:19 UTC  

Yeah, school-backed activism is cancer

2019-09-28 05:04:25 UTC  

avoiding contempoary politics acheives that end

2019-09-28 05:04:53 UTC  

Well not really, because history can't be taught without politically predisposing children to certain ideas.

2019-09-28 05:05:11 UTC  

Because history itself cannot be apolitical

2019-09-28 05:05:20 UTC  

again, nothing about that is contemporary