Ur USA, yeah?

You can achieve something approaching it on a small scale, but to scale it up to fit the American public education needs? And maintain that standard across the whole population?
No way. It's logistically impractical

USA, yes. and 'politics' is NOT 'ideology'

that's a false diacotomy

Politics is ideological in most of the population though

Rational politics is the exception, not the rule

we are a Democratic Republic. WE have elections. Any talk of candidates or who should be elected should be verboten

hence 'apolitical'

the USA is more pure republic than Democratic Republic

tangential

also @Scale_e, one way to counter bias is to ensure each person can recite BOTH sides of an argument as a qualification

@ManAnimal that doesn't make education apolitical, it just means it isn't biased in contemporary politics. These are two very different standards to uphold.

then i am confused as to your intent or rather you are confused at my intent when i suggest schools should be apolitical

You're just speaking too broadly
Obviously everyone agrees that schools shouldn't tell students how to vote, but there's going to be political ideas injected into the education even without that.

the intent is to insure that children aren't used as protestors or prevent the school of being used as a bully pulpit

Yeah, school-backed activism is cancer

avoiding contempoary politics acheives that end

Well not really, because history can't be taught without politically predisposing children to certain ideas.

Because history itself cannot be apolitical

again, nothing about that is contemporary

btw we should have a bot that at random post edgy jokes just so we can sniff out any journos that hang out here

you are teaching the children about the various ideas held in the past; this isn't a bad thing

you just can't apply them to present

you keep them in their historical context

@ManAnimal consider the inevitability that you will have to teach children at some point why a given political idea failed, though. That's going to create a political bias whether you want it or not.

@saru_richard or just call everyone niggers 😎

Communism failed *because* communism is a non-functional political concept. That's going to bias children against communism.

Etc etc

also, it IS possible to remove politics from school COMPLETELY and instead require a seperate forum of civics and politics such as a mandatory participation of 1 yrs hands on civics/gov after hs

@atomic (you refering to my comment about Dissenter or the Jorno one)

From my manifesto:

Education:
A nation needs nationalized education. From the ages of 5 to 12 a child should receive state sponsored education. This is not to help the disadvantaged. Education is not a right. Education is a responsibility. It is the responsibility of a society to ensure that children grow to be well adjusted to that society. To this end, the government shall provide nationalized primary education that teaches every child the necessities of living in their society. As well as the usual reading, writing and arithmetic, special emphasis should be given to national history and civics. There should also be instruction on the banking system, the legal system, how insurance works, advertising, consumer rights, drug and alcohol education, etc etc. And, most importantly, physical education including, at a minimum, one hour of rigorous daily exercise. This is to instill exercise as a habit for all people so as to combat obesity specifically, and promote good health more generally.
When a child reaches the age of 13, they should be given a nationalized, standardized test that ranks all students, not merely on intelligence, but on suitability for different professions. Based on the results of this test they should begin study on an appropriate chosen profession at that age. If they are to become an electrician, they would start an apprenticeship. If they are to become a doctor they would start doing classes to prepare them for university level education. If they are to become a soldier, they would join an organization of cadets.

jornos comment

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ya that can work to

maybe we shall all change are names to the N word

will be funny seeing the reaction

Beyond the age of 13, it is an incredible waste of time and resources teaching students general education, most of which they will never need. By this age education should be individually tailored to their needs. Funding for this education should be primarily privately sourced and only nationally subsidized when it is in the national interest. For example, if there is a shortage of one particular profession, or if the government foresees a future demand for a particular profession, it should subsidize part of the education for that profession as an incentive. But, again, this is not a hand out. An education that does not help a nation should never be nationally funded. This is self defeating foolishness.

I COMPLETELY disagree

@Scale_e that sounds reactionary as fuck

so lads

who’s out here trying to sniff that **gender studies course**