then the islamic invasions and oh look everyone converted to islam

The islamic jihad had taken most of spain, itally and the states around greece before the crusades started, first taking back europe and then rataliating on merely jerusalam.

by their own accord of course lol

no conversion by sword here

I was told the crusades were unjustified, well that’s out the window

right what's next?

Most people don’t even remember the Berber wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV30DDxbzH0

Berber wars

The spanish were preparing for an all out invasion to retake africa and the middle east, but were waylayed by the discovery of america where gold was aplenty. Spain decided to use this expidition to farm capital for the invasion of the middle east and north africa. But then the brittish fleet sunk them in the middle of a hurricane.

Ya know Muslim pirates attacking US merchant ships for no reason either then “we were the infidels”

and they wanted slaves

thats a good reason too

I mean when you think about it, the crusades worked out well for Christians

which country are you from @S K E L L Y Ivanthenotsoterrible ?

No, europe had its own source of slaves without trading with africa or invading america. The SLAVic people.

United kangdom

the ottomans mainly took the slavs as slaves

vee talks about it too much

Their kingdom was the origin of the european word slave

All I think is the polish are good workers lol

People also seem to forget the Ottoman Empires continued pushes to take European lands in the balkans

never met pole i didnt like

are you a southerner?

Yes lad

So Islam has been gunning for the west for a long ass time

I’m in the north rn though

oof, northerner reporting

5 minutes away from a pakistani ghetto

At least you’re English lol

Also in general, slave was more a class than straight up turning you into property. It was the class of prisoners and debtors and you could earn your way out. Not like the slavery in the middle east

The Irish were also slaves

as vee said, slavery was a moral improvement over mass murder

slightly more humane

Yeah pretty much every country ever was built on blood

and then we came along and said "you know what's a moral improvement over slavery? not slavery"

;p;

Ye, but at some point your society should be past the whole slave thing

name one that wasnt ivan

Exactly

greenland i guess