Message from @Solusandra
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They use it as a knee jerk justification to suite their modern analysis of Islamic encroachment on the west
Yes the Islamic conquests took all the Middle East, Anatolia, Liberia, North Africa and were close to getting into Europe
Wait those places were Christian
The west launched the crusades cause those places the Islamic conquests took where Christian
What
Yes
they were part of the byzantine empire
mostly orthodox christian
Also the west only launched the crusades after like 200 years of continued aggression by Islamic caliphates
so crusades were a reconquest
Or in other words defensive
Muslims had ivaded Spain and parts of France before the crusades started too, it was not just a push to take Jerusalem. It was mainly to push Islam back into the middle east
battle of tours
Basically, whitey didn't start it
North africa and the middle east were christian for 700 years.
We shall take back Iberia!… oh yeah don’t forget Jerusalem
they were roman, and converted pretty early iirc
then the visigoths in tunisia etc. were christian
then the islamic invasions and oh look everyone converted to islam
The islamic jihad had taken most of spain, itally and the states around greece before the crusades started, first taking back europe and then rataliating on merely jerusalam.
by their own accord of course lol
no conversion by sword here
I was told the crusades were unjustified, well that’s out the window
right what's next?
Most people don’t even remember the Berber wars
Berber wars
The spanish were preparing for an all out invasion to retake africa and the middle east, but were waylayed by the discovery of america where gold was aplenty. Spain decided to use this expidition to farm capital for the invasion of the middle east and north africa. But then the brittish fleet sunk them in the middle of a hurricane.
Ya know Muslim pirates attacking US merchant ships for no reason either then “we were the infidels”
and they wanted slaves
thats a good reason too
I mean when you think about it, the crusades worked out well for Christians
which country are you from @S K E L L Y Ivanthenotsoterrible ?
No, europe had its own source of slaves without trading with africa or invading america. The SLAVic people.
United kangdom
the ottomans mainly took the slavs as slaves
vee talks about it too much
Their kingdom was the origin of the european word slave
All I think is the polish are good workers lol
People also seem to forget the Ottoman Empires continued pushes to take European lands in the balkans