Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-07-12 06:23:49 UTC  

lol

2019-07-12 06:23:52 UTC  

we see how that works

2019-07-12 06:23:53 UTC  

Once again a select few and I'm not saying it's not a problem

2019-07-12 06:24:16 UTC  

Affirmative Action is equal outcome.

2019-07-12 06:24:16 UTC  

@Laucivol exactly, it's not real capitalism once fiat is introduced

2019-07-12 06:24:36 UTC  

well the problem is now, with the FED, it is more profitable to simply move money around than to actually PRODUCE, or SAVE/INVEST

2019-07-12 06:24:38 UTC  

First step is some how ween off of fiat.

2019-07-12 06:24:49 UTC  

How? Fuck. Wish I knew.

2019-07-12 06:24:54 UTC  

that only concentrates the wealth with those that HAVE money to move

2019-07-12 06:25:10 UTC  

not after 2008

2019-07-12 06:25:19 UTC  

quantative easing is through the roof

2019-07-12 06:25:23 UTC  

hence the trade war

2019-07-12 06:25:27 UTC  

I think that's where we agree as a whole.. fiat currency is diabolical .

2019-07-12 06:25:46 UTC  

but there IS a legitamate argument for it; liquidity

2019-07-12 06:25:54 UTC  

Can't work towards either ideal in this weather.

2019-07-12 06:26:07 UTC  

there has to be enough of it for everyone to be able to participate in the system

2019-07-12 06:26:18 UTC  

I'm saying ancaps would make it worse but all you want to tell me is that people are benevolent and would never do that because.... I dunno.... Competition for monopolies to destroy?

2019-07-12 06:26:36 UTC  

and the more the population grows, the more deflation a non-fiat would see

2019-07-12 06:27:04 UTC  

ancaps wouldn't be able to seperate security from trade

2019-07-12 06:27:04 UTC  

To be clear I leverage towards mixed. Monopolies are bad. AnCap has no system to prevent that.

2019-07-12 06:27:21 UTC  

and thus those with the guns would just TAKE rather than trade

2019-07-12 06:27:23 UTC  

Of course I'm also a fan of more decentralized control.

2019-07-12 06:27:49 UTC  

current govs seperate those who apply force from the incentive to imply force

2019-07-12 06:27:55 UTC  

Stronger local govt's is good because reactions are a local matter.

2019-07-12 06:28:09 UTC  

And federal should be external focused.

2019-07-12 06:28:23 UTC  

cops don't get paid based on how many people they arrest or how badass the criminals they take down ar

2019-07-12 06:28:40 UTC  

So things like the trade war, border security and so on is the intended focus for the feds.

2019-07-12 06:29:18 UTC  

And to hold the states to the Constitution.

2019-07-12 06:29:24 UTC  

Oh, and making sure interstate interactions are conducted fairly.

2019-07-12 06:29:32 UTC  

govt is ALWAYS best when the decsion powwe is focused on the level of the avg person

2019-07-12 06:29:58 UTC  

constitution? we haven't followed it in decades

2019-07-12 06:30:19 UTC  

Unfortunately... I think it's been quite a few decades.

2019-07-12 06:30:26 UTC  

If not more than a century.

2019-07-12 06:30:38 UTC  

"Power shalll rest with the States and only that authority which IT chooses shall be delegated to the Federal gov"

2019-07-12 06:30:53 UTC  

Ayup.

2019-07-12 06:30:56 UTC  

more than a century at least

2019-07-12 06:31:36 UTC  

The only problem was that chattel slavery would be permissible.

2019-07-12 06:31:38 UTC  

but, now the Federal Gov uses leverage to FORCE the states to do what they want and render them impotent

2019-07-12 06:31:45 UTC  

Yeah it's a problem but I don't think dissolving the fed is a good idea

2019-07-12 06:31:48 UTC  

Which is bad for the individual... and for commerce.

2019-07-12 06:32:13 UTC  

well, if we let the South LEAVE, we wouldn't have to DEAL with thiis shit