Message from @ManAnimal

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2019-07-12 06:22:28 UTC  

And be absorbed by said monopoly.

2019-07-12 06:22:32 UTC  

that is the opposite of capitalism

2019-07-12 06:22:43 UTC  

it's exploitation, plain and simple

2019-07-12 06:22:48 UTC  

Which, again, we've seen repeatedly and is why anti-trust laws are needed.

2019-07-12 06:23:07 UTC  

They exist they need to be enforced

2019-07-12 06:23:14 UTC  

but anti-trusst laws won't help competitiion

2019-07-12 06:23:26 UTC  

they will only penalize monopolies

2019-07-12 06:23:28 UTC  

@SageTheory and despite the anti monopoly laws monopolies still formed and continue to form today

2019-07-12 06:23:29 UTC  

not always the same

2019-07-12 06:23:35 UTC  

They try to make the playing field more even, though.

2019-07-12 06:23:46 UTC  

yeah so did affirmative action

2019-07-12 06:23:49 UTC  

lol

2019-07-12 06:23:52 UTC  

we see how that works

2019-07-12 06:23:53 UTC  

Once again a select few and I'm not saying it's not a problem

2019-07-12 06:24:16 UTC  

Affirmative Action is equal outcome.

2019-07-12 06:24:16 UTC  

@Laucivol exactly, it's not real capitalism once fiat is introduced

2019-07-12 06:24:36 UTC  

well the problem is now, with the FED, it is more profitable to simply move money around than to actually PRODUCE, or SAVE/INVEST

2019-07-12 06:24:38 UTC  

First step is some how ween off of fiat.

2019-07-12 06:24:49 UTC  

How? Fuck. Wish I knew.

2019-07-12 06:24:54 UTC  

that only concentrates the wealth with those that HAVE money to move

2019-07-12 06:25:10 UTC  

not after 2008

2019-07-12 06:25:19 UTC  

quantative easing is through the roof

2019-07-12 06:25:23 UTC  

hence the trade war

2019-07-12 06:25:27 UTC  

I think that's where we agree as a whole.. fiat currency is diabolical .

2019-07-12 06:25:46 UTC  

but there IS a legitamate argument for it; liquidity

2019-07-12 06:25:54 UTC  

Can't work towards either ideal in this weather.

2019-07-12 06:26:07 UTC  

there has to be enough of it for everyone to be able to participate in the system

2019-07-12 06:26:18 UTC  

I'm saying ancaps would make it worse but all you want to tell me is that people are benevolent and would never do that because.... I dunno.... Competition for monopolies to destroy?

2019-07-12 06:26:36 UTC  

and the more the population grows, the more deflation a non-fiat would see

2019-07-12 06:27:04 UTC  

ancaps wouldn't be able to seperate security from trade

2019-07-12 06:27:04 UTC  

To be clear I leverage towards mixed. Monopolies are bad. AnCap has no system to prevent that.

2019-07-12 06:27:21 UTC  

and thus those with the guns would just TAKE rather than trade

2019-07-12 06:27:23 UTC  

Of course I'm also a fan of more decentralized control.

2019-07-12 06:27:49 UTC  

current govs seperate those who apply force from the incentive to imply force

2019-07-12 06:27:55 UTC  

Stronger local govt's is good because reactions are a local matter.

2019-07-12 06:28:09 UTC  

And federal should be external focused.

2019-07-12 06:28:23 UTC  

cops don't get paid based on how many people they arrest or how badass the criminals they take down ar

2019-07-12 06:28:40 UTC  

So things like the trade war, border security and so on is the intended focus for the feds.

2019-07-12 06:29:18 UTC  

And to hold the states to the Constitution.

2019-07-12 06:29:24 UTC  

Oh, and making sure interstate interactions are conducted fairly.

2019-07-12 06:29:32 UTC  

govt is ALWAYS best when the decsion powwe is focused on the level of the avg person