Message from @Ϻ14ᛟ

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2019-07-16 03:22:13 UTC  

enabled by capitalism

2019-07-16 03:22:34 UTC  

@ManAnimal In terms of genuine Nationalists who have the interests of the actual people of that nation in their best interests yes they are.
I think you need to listen to more then. Most people who go on about "such and such being a shill" or whatever just don't know enough. None of the biggest figures who identify as Alt Right (Spencer, Mike Enoch, Eric Striker, etc) are faking their beliefs I can promise you that.

2019-07-16 03:22:41 UTC  

@Scale_e - I believe they can exist, but we haven't yet reached that level of quality in any education system. There are some private schools that come close, but even they have a ways to go.

2019-07-16 03:23:10 UTC  

I think you need to pay more attention to the peole that don't speak publically

2019-07-16 03:23:23 UTC  

they are hard working, blue collar, men's men

2019-07-16 03:23:36 UTC  

that don't speak until they have something to say

2019-07-16 03:23:44 UTC  

and would rather act than talk

2019-07-16 03:23:45 UTC  

There is no education system that can educate a man in a way that he could sufficiently replace the free market.
Again. You’re asking for an omniscient leader. It’s impossible.

2019-07-16 03:23:56 UTC  

yup

2019-07-16 03:24:00 UTC  

Also, I'm not asking men to be gods. I'm just asking for the state-appointed Walmart executives to be more competent than the ones we have now. I don't think that will ever happen under current sociopolitical conditions.

2019-07-16 03:24:21 UTC  

competence is irrelevant

2019-07-16 03:24:29 UTC  

and executioner can be competent

2019-07-16 03:24:41 UTC  

in fact competance usually leads to arrogance and abuse

2019-07-16 03:25:13 UTC  

It's very relevant, as is your guiding philosophy.

Capitalism has tons of externalities, which makes it theoretically weak because of cost-shifting problems.

Socialism is theoretically stronger, but in practice it has continually led to suboptimal results, especially famines.

2019-07-16 03:25:31 UTC  

Hey, I’d like better leaders, in general, too.
Not because it would enable a socialist society, merely because better leaders, with our current society would be better.

2019-07-16 03:25:34 UTC  

it's a matter of values (beleiving theyt SHOULD do the right thing) vs penalties for not doing the right thing

2019-07-16 03:25:40 UTC  

Imagine a relevant nigger

2019-07-16 03:26:51 UTC  

the US system is good because of checks and balances

2019-07-16 03:26:54 UTC  

The idea that socialism is “stronger” is flawed. Socialism isn’t stronger. It’s more *controllable*. Sure. You can gear an entire economy to one, authoritatively commanded purpose.
But that economy can never be as strong as a capitalist economy.

2019-07-16 03:27:07 UTC  

it is broken cause teh alphabet agencies tup that balance

2019-07-16 03:27:13 UTC  

@ManAnimal Who says I don't though and who says that some of these people (Especially Striker who worked in construction and Enoch who worked as a programmer, both very social and used to talk to their colleagues about some of the stuff they talk about now. Spencer less so because he is from a rich family) don't represent some feelings of these classes of people well?

2019-07-16 03:27:18 UTC  

Capitalism's inherent weakness is the externality to business operations - most businesses will have one or more costs that are not born by the business itself, but instead by third parties who did not ask to bear those costs. Socialism could theoretically operate in such a way that it includes externalities in all business calculations, thus maximizing social progress and economic growth.

But that's just theory. Practice matters.

In practice, capitalism continually outperforms socialism because socialist leaders are almost always corrupt and inefficient. They're often idiots too, and idiocy tends to kill more people than even the worst kinds of malice.

2019-07-16 03:27:48 UTC  

Because you are 1 ) a millenial or younger and 2) you are on here

2019-07-16 03:28:07 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/598761542200197120/600529065346072576/unknown.png

2019-07-16 03:28:15 UTC  

doubtful you have enough experience with that world

2019-07-16 03:28:34 UTC  

lol Israel

2019-07-16 03:28:41 UTC  

for the boarder?

2019-07-16 03:28:52 UTC  

more like 'politicans'

2019-07-16 03:29:10 UTC  

from GWB thru Trump

2019-07-16 03:29:29 UTC  

on both sides of the aisle

2019-07-16 03:29:37 UTC  

Yeah, I think what they mean is Jewish lobbies.

2019-07-16 03:29:40 UTC  

I think I've pretty much stated my position though:

1) Socialism is stronger in theory.
2) Capitalism is stronger in practice.

You'd need a level of competency and ideological quality to make #1 relevant, which doesn't currently exist in any large nation state. In fact, most towns and cities don't have that level of quality in their leadership.

2019-07-16 03:29:45 UTC  

no we meant israel

2019-07-16 03:29:57 UTC  

(((M15ᛟ)))

2019-07-16 03:30:00 UTC  

"we"

2019-07-16 03:30:01 UTC  

is covering up for israel

2019-07-16 03:30:10 UTC  

capitalism is also stronger in theory

2019-07-16 03:30:14 UTC  

individualism is for cucks

2019-07-16 03:30:20 UTC  

correct

2019-07-16 03:30:21 UTC  

and i can demonstrate with math

2019-07-16 03:30:22 UTC  

and ruins the west