Message from @Arthur Grayborn

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2019-07-16 10:23:51 UTC  

There were many fakes during the 60's and 80's in martial arts

2019-07-16 10:23:56 UTC  

Ha gay

2019-07-16 10:24:00 UTC  

@Froststep <:smugay:593502151758708776>

2019-07-16 10:24:00 UTC  

fake martial arts is just filled with unironic weebs and delusional people. and whats worse is that theyre guys pushing more than 40 years old

2019-07-16 10:24:04 UTC  

apparently you can follow your own referral link and make an account in incognito mode with this bl3 vip progrim thing

2019-07-16 10:24:05 UTC  

Well fuck you too

2019-07-16 10:24:21 UTC  

gladly, m'lady

2019-07-16 10:24:25 UTC  

<:tiptip:462282246695419934> <:npc:502497359419408384>

2019-07-16 10:24:40 UTC  

Don't hate the player hate the game

2019-07-16 10:24:48 UTC  

Anyways, it was kinda easy way to make money when people like Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris were famous

2019-07-16 10:25:21 UTC  

people wanted exciting martial arts and not boring "guys grappling each other on the floor for minutes" type of action

2019-07-16 10:25:28 UTC  

Add a dose of "oriental mysticism" and it's like waking in the park

2019-07-16 10:26:59 UTC  

And tbf, old martial arts like karate do work. Problem is that people don't know the context it was designed for

2019-07-16 10:27:20 UTC  

Most martial arts have that problem

2019-07-16 10:27:35 UTC  

lot of context is ignored because some average people don't know what context is

2019-07-16 10:27:42 UTC  

Exactly

2019-07-16 10:27:54 UTC  

Asian martial arts really benefitted from the fact that it was less about practical combat training, and more about entertaining the emperor or shogun. That meant the moves were often really fancy, which made them look more appealing from an entertainment point of view.

European martial arts is often better in a street fight, but it doesn't look pretty. So people don't watch it.

2019-07-16 10:28:05 UTC  

Eh, yes and no

2019-07-16 10:28:13 UTC  

Karate was peasant art

2019-07-16 10:28:20 UTC  

Entertainment.

2019-07-16 10:28:23 UTC  

That's my point.

2019-07-16 10:28:27 UTC  

heh

2019-07-16 10:28:28 UTC  

wrestling

2019-07-16 10:28:35 UTC  

ANd it had the context of "we don't have weapons, nobles do"

2019-07-16 10:28:48 UTC  

And no, it wasn't entertainment

2019-07-16 10:28:56 UTC  

Lolgay

2019-07-16 10:28:56 UTC  

the ancient sumo technique

2019-07-16 10:29:06 UTC  

Sumo was samurai art

2019-07-16 10:29:10 UTC  

dig it

2019-07-16 10:29:15 UTC  

**literally with your nose**

2019-07-16 10:29:23 UTC  

technically peasants still had walking sticks and farm implements

2019-07-16 10:29:40 UTC  

HEMA isn't pretty.

Viking fights mostly involve two guys hopping around each other, trying to get around a big ass wooden shield so they can poke him with a sharp knife and hopefully kill the other guy.

Knight combat manuals mostly involve grappling and then jamming a sharp blade into the eyes, armpits, and groin.

2019-07-16 10:29:52 UTC  

Yes, but that why it was about singular strikes, and not like boxing

2019-07-16 10:30:30 UTC  

If you have to fight unarmed against someone without weapons, your first attack must succeed or you die

2019-07-16 10:30:38 UTC  

European armor was far superior to Asian armor, so combat was almost always drawn out. It was mostly about getting the other guy on the ground so you can end him with a dagger. Ideally in the eyes, armpits, or groin, because those are the parts that wouldn't be covered by plate armor.

2019-07-16 10:31:03 UTC  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZz0x69ATE
what do you fuccbois think of this gay canadian's assessment of the
samurai vs knight vs viking debate

2019-07-16 10:31:19 UTC  

Weapon arts are usually completely different to unarmed stuff

2019-07-16 10:31:21 UTC  

tldr is he says viking wins

2019-07-16 10:31:26 UTC  

Samurai swords wouldn't do shit against European armor. Their spears might have a chance, though.