I'd rather have someone else than a globalists thank you

A lot of 2ks statements are nationalist despite the fact that he says that nationalism is bad

Another Thatcher would be a major improvement on what we have right now because Thatcher was not globalist

For example

A federal Europe would be a force to contend with the United States and China

2k is unreasonable and rude

He's not unreasonable, he's Greek

I was expecting him to be.... taller

Anyone well placed to tell you how the EU screwed them over, then he's it

For someone who thinks that nationalism leads to nations into war and the EU is good because it prevents war

That line of thinking mentioned before is what leads to war

indeed

ww1 wasnt caused by nationalism (well not german nationalism anyway)

Nationlism doesn't lead to war, and federalism doesn't prevent war

it was just a consequence

yeah

I don't think it does

@Eccles your smart

I'm arguing against 2k who thinks it does

can you teach me to be human

If he believes that then he's had too much fucking Ouzo

The point is that he says hes against nationalism while being a nationalist for the EU

the EU f*cked his country over

And making statements about contending with China and the US on the world stage

Which is literally what he is complaining about nationalism for

EU: take in a shit load of immigrants and dont complain unless you're a racists

Greece: mmmkay mom

The logic goes "Germany was nationalist. Germany caused ww2. Germany is the only nationalist country ever to exist. QED nationlism leads to war. EU is federalist. EU has not caused any wars. EU is the only federation ever to exist. QED federalism leads to peace"

No that's not it

It goes like this

thats a terribly brainwashed way of thinking isnt it?

Nationalism caused WW1 and WW2

the logic anyway

Nationalism is bad

Therefor no nation should be nationalist

thats stupid

Brainwashed? No, just contains a logical fallacy that is normally skipped when it's fed as a soundbite

ive never met someone who thinks like that

Support the EU to prevent war

*chews on some bamboo shoots*

If you've heard someone claim nationalism causes war, or EU has created peace, then they've made the same logical fallacy