Greece: mmmkay mom

The logic goes "Germany was nationalist. Germany caused ww2. Germany is the only nationalist country ever to exist. QED nationlism leads to war. EU is federalist. EU has not caused any wars. EU is the only federation ever to exist. QED federalism leads to peace"

No that's not it

It goes like this

thats a terribly brainwashed way of thinking isnt it?

Nationalism caused WW1 and WW2

the logic anyway

Nationalism is bad

Therefor no nation should be nationalist

thats stupid

Brainwashed? No, just contains a logical fallacy that is normally skipped when it's fed as a soundbite

ive never met someone who thinks like that

Support the EU to prevent war

*chews on some bamboo shoots*

If you've heard someone claim nationalism causes war, or EU has created peace, then they've made the same logical fallacy

it sounds like 1984

And then it starts with the pro EU nationalism

being honest

I can't really think of any examples on the spot

I'm new to this debate

By all means be pro-EU - just be honest about it

so im online when reasonable people are hmmm

why cant this always happen

Not living in the EU

sometimes i talk to nazis

Most pro-EU people are just not - PureEvilPie are great examples of it

PureEvilPie is a EU nationalist

They aren't honest about their positions and don't recognise the position of the opponent as being legitimate

I use him as an example on this topic

PeP is a tard

He's a coward

aww dont call him names

frankly

I've got him figured out

I hate him too

No, I don't hate him

but turn the other cheek you know

I like him less and less over time

I'm describing his position - he's a coward

I'll still be nice to him though

2K is way better though