I could agree that the guitar is not art, though it could be made into art at the cost of it's effectiveness as a guitar, but the motions of the player is blatantly an artform as it can be appreciated divorced from the music that it produces.

Again, let’s say the beautiful guitar, has an amazing paint job on it, or it’s made with exotic materials, or it’s just finely crafted. Well done. You’ve got some great art on a tool.

That's what I said

Read the second part of that statment

I was agreeing with you

well sortof

Read the second part

the rest of my statment

So if I'm really good at stacking boxes that's an art?

depends on how you do it really

It depends.
Why are you stacking the boxes?

it's all about the finesse and skill of your work

well played tetris is definitely an artform

^

If you are stacking boxes simply so that people can look at the boxes and think about how well they’re stacked. Stacking the boxes was art.
If it’s you’re job to stack boxes, and you’re really fast and efficient at it. Well good for you. You’re great at your job. And we might be amazed and impressed. But it’s not art.

Exactly it is a skill that creates said art. Nothing wrong with appreciating skill.

It’s not the skill.

skill is an artform

It’s the purpose.

I can pick up a pencil right now and draw a stick figure man pooping into a teacup.
That’s art.
It’s really *bad* art. But it’s art.

perhaps this whole theory of 'art' is totally subjective?

No wonder art sucks nowadays when everyone make everything an art.

lol

are is indeed a social construct

If I am cleaning out one of the bins at work and spill iron oxide all over some scrap cardboard... it might land in such a way to create a beautiful pattern that everyone adores.
It’s not art. It’s an accident.

Nah that's art

... but if it commands a price - it's art!

You have to decide to create a thing that has no purpose other than be appreciated and judged *as* art.

I laid a massive shit the other day. Art.

Then you are making art.

Lol

I gotta go make dinner.

of course, stacking boxes can command a price too (in the form of a wage) - so you know, whatever

Thanks for that image as I go.

some people consider cooking dinner an art - have fun!

I just remembered there were japanese performers literally doing construction work as an art performance trending on vine and youtube a couple years ago

hey guys

niggers.

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https://youtu.be/jHKW5AWLby0 not really relevant to the discussion but I couldn't help thinking of this lol

Art is gay